Is there a cycle that does NOT shut down HPTA?

Hi guys,

I'm mid-40's and without exogenous T, my T levels are at the very bottom of the reference range (sub 250). Despite my age, I'm not keen to go sterile again, and the last cycle I did (around 1000mg/week of various injectables and orals), shut me down SO bad that a fertility test found one single, lonely, and completely crippled sperm cell :S (and yes, 2 years prior I tested nicely).

So, what I want is a cycle that props up my free T at around 600, keep my E2 in the 10-50 range where I find I can 'perform' admirably, YET does not suppress my LH and FSH levels (necessary for spermatogenesis - ie count and motility).

I'm thinking 2ml T-Cyp per week, 100mg Proviron per day, and HCG at around 500UI per week. Adex as required to suppress E2 into my desired range.

Does anyone know if this'll keep me active? Would I simply monitor LH/FSH weekly to be sure? OR is it an awful, largely undiscussed, truth that ANY exogenous T suppresses LH/FSH and renders us sterile within 3 months?

PS: yeah yeah yeah, I get that everyone is different and we all know someone who got their GF preggies whilst on cycle, BUT 1) I'm over 40 2) I have deep experience of shutdown and 3) those anecdotes ignore the fact that spermagenesis takes 3 months and pregnancy may simply have occurred within that window of decline.

Chris, do some reading about SARMs. They are being developed for this purpose, but gains are not that great though.

Your body seems very stressed bro. Instead of doing a cycle, why don't you rather consider doing a proper PCT and get your body back to normal. It is very possible that your system is just shut down from harsh compounds in your previous cycles but not permanently shut down. Also if you go ahead and suppress your HPTA axis for the entire duration of a new cycle then it is possible that this time your system might permanently shut down (and trust me you do not want that!). We have a brilliant PCT protocol on this site specially designed by a doctor to get that lonely swimmer of yours socializing with other swimmers again. Any chance that your previous cycle contained Deca or Tren?

That Tren!!! My supplier recommended it at the last minute...I was bloody stupid. Anyway, it's not permanent damage, I'm PCTing from tomorrow, but keen to get back on the horse again - just a gentler horse this time.

@admin; r there any registered sarms in SA? My doc will prescribe anything, just need a name for him to work with.

Bro you need to kick your supplier in the nuts!

ChrisZA wrote: @admin; r there any registered sarms in SA? My doc will prescribe anything, just need a name for him to work with.

Nope, you will have to get it on the black market. SARMs are not yet used outside of testing, so no pharmacy will have access to it.