Limited Budget, 1st cycle

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04 Jul 2012 12:21 #111715 by Rookie
Limited Budget, 1st cycle was created by Rookie
What yoy guys think of this as a 1st Cycle.
Note: The guy's budget is very limited

Week 1 - 6 = 100mp Prop EOD (acting as a frontload)
Week 1 - 15 = 600 mg TestEN (split twice a week)
Week 15 - 19 = 40mg Anavar (acting as Bridge)

Week 20 - Full Doctari PCT (30 Day waiting period for Testen to clear)

Do you think a full Doc PCT is really required.

Goals are Lean Mass only
Diet will be in check
It's for a friend, so I have no idea what he's stats are, probable 110kg @ 15-20% Bodyfat

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04 Jul 2012 12:45 #111719 by Pyroclasm
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Anavar and Test-En are very expensive anabolics when compared to other options. These compounds are not meant for someone on a shy budget. Also PCT 2 will be fine. And his bodyfat maybe a bit high there. What are you going to use for an AI?

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04 Jul 2012 12:55 - 04 Jul 2012 12:57 #111720 by Rookie
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I agree with the Anavar, but Testen is on the lower end of the Price range, not so?
More or less the same price as Test Prop?

What would you bridge with, Winstrol?

Haven't given the AI much thought, Tamaxofine and Anastrozole.
Although Anastrozole isn't reallt cheap, but I dont think a person should compromise here.
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04 Jul 2012 13:29 #111723 by Heretic47
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if cash is a bit tight why not just save a little longer?

I agree with pyro, pct would be sufficient. also why not just front load your first week with the en if cash is a issue? you plasma levels will even out quicker than without. also cheaper. use winstrol @40mg in the bridge or the usual winny prov combo.

that being said, I'd probably just gooi test, no front load or kick start, maybe winny and then pct 2 if my cash was tight. letro as an AI - horrible stuff but it works. gave me headaches.

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04 Jul 2012 13:36 #111725 by Pyroclasm
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Test-En is the most expensive test you can get. If I were on a tight budget I would just do test prop/supertest 8 or 10 weeks and run Winstrol throughout @40mg ED with liver support (not milk thistle). PCT 2 and then for my AI I would rather save up for Arimidex. I haven't used Letro before but I hear it's very nasty stuff. Then do as much proviron as what the remainder of the budget will allow.

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04 Jul 2012 13:39 #111726 by Megusta
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Pyroclasm wrote: Test-En is the most expensive test you can get. If I were on a tight budget I would just do test prop/supertest 8 or 10 weeks and run Winstrol throughout @40mg ED with liver support (not milk thistle). PCT 2 and then for my AI I would rather save up for Arimidex. I haven't used Letro before but I hear it's very nasty stuff. Then do as much proviron as what the remainder of the budget will allow.


What kind of liver support would work, if not milk thistle? i know it influences gains or something. What other good brands of liver support is there without the thistle?

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04 Jul 2012 13:45 #111728 by Rookie
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Pyroclasm wrote: Test-En is the most expensive test you can get. If I were on a tight budget I would just do test prop/supertest 8 or 10 weeks and run Winstrol throughout @40mg ED with liver support (not milk thistle). PCT 2 and then for my AI I would rather save up for Arimidex. I haven't used Letro before but I hear it's very nasty stuff. Then do as much proviron as what the remainder of the budget will allow.


This I like, Thanx!!

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04 Jul 2012 14:02 #111731 by Bandit
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Liv52 instead of milkthistle

(Enter lame comment here)

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04 Jul 2012 15:52 #111744 by ninjajuice
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Pyroclasm wrote: I haven't used Letro before but I hear it's very nasty stuff.


It is F@CKING horrible. I only used it for a couple of days and then threw it away. Will never use that stuff again.

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04 Jul 2012 16:40 #111753 by Pyroclasm
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@Megusta: Essentiale, Cruciale, Liv52 etc.

@Ninjajuice: Heavy days! I remember KOE telling us about his Letro experience and how kak it is.

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04 Jul 2012 16:40 #111754 by MK
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Running Test Prop for 8 to 10 weeks would be much better IMO and for a first cycle try aim at 500mg per week.

Test Prop would work out nicely for him if he's looking for lean gains and hoping to drop bf, but ofcourse that also comes down to diet. Much shorter bridge and overall cycle time therefore faster/better recovery and inevitably better gains that can be kept IMO.

Not sure what oral to run throughout though. I'm in the same situation, as I'm not sure whether to run Dbol halfway the Anavar, or Anavar throughout or even Oral Tbol throughout.

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