2nd cycle building blocks

If i do my 1st cycle


1-4 : Tbol 60mg/day
1-12 : Cyp 500mg/week
1-15 : Proviron 40mg/day
12-15 :tbol 40mg/day

How would one go about designing your second cycle if you want to gain lean mass? Would you just add more anabolic substances, increase test dosage alone, drop test dosage (low maintenance dose) and increase other anabolic compounds so that you increase the potency/ anabolism of the cycle without neceseraly increasing the endrogenic or negative sides.

I havn't done my first cycle. Im just interested to know.

Well the prov in your first cycle will help keep you lean, so technicaly you could just redo that cycle! You can have lean gains on any cycle by keeping your dieet in check, then you could also use something like winny in a bridge that should harden you up!

I'm already thinking about my 2nd too. Want to do add some Deca

rvp01 wrote: I'm already thinking about my 2nd too. Want to do add some Deca

Haha yeah I have the same prob, I acually thought about doing a nice short cycle for my second, test prop, NPP as base and mabey add some proviron an winstrol. 10 weeks. Don't know if 19 nor is a good idea for a second cycle though but at this stage its just dreaming anyway

Personally I'd wait and see how my body reacts to the entire cycle (chemicals as well as pct) before thinking about my second cycle. There isn't a set protocol for everyone to follow but I'd play with dosages on my second. Maybe add a diff compound.

I would however save something more suppressive like your 19-nors for a 3rd, 4th or 5th cycle - once you know more or less how your body responds. You might for instance have difficulty recovering from your 500mg test cycle, then what?

It's all relative.

Fair comment. But one can always dream

rvp01 wrote: Fair comment. But one can always dream

Definitely

I'm speaking purely as a non-bodybuilder so where's definitely no rush to pack on mass.

Slow and steady wins the race.

ya. How would you adjust your cycle to basically save something for later, so to speak, and not just increase dosages left to right. For instance: I wanted to do only 250mg of test cyp en 40mg of Tbol for my first cycle,so that i can increase in my second cycle, but alot of guys suggested that i do cyp @ 500mg and tbol @ 60mg.

so you can take advantage of the androgen spike and your 1st cycle. you could do 250mg of test if you wanted, im sure it was just a suggestion, you can take as much or as little as you wamt

No need for increasing dosages - I would also rather not add another compound.

I would do:
1st cycle - 12 weeks test CYP (500mg) with 40mg Dbol or 40mg Tbol
2nd cycle - 15 weeks test ENT (600mg) with 50mg Dbol or 60mg Tbol

Then cycle 3 go for something like EQ with test. Cycle 4 the same as 3, but higher doses. Cycle 5 I would go for deca with test or just plain EQ+test+NAPS! :ohmy:

Hahaha after 3-4 cycles on dare I say, MILD gear. You should know your body and can decide from there on

Cheers