Fatloss before my cycle need help please :)

Hey guys

A lil background info on me:
Im turning 22 soon.
Have done 2 cycles before the one was dbol for 4 weeks then superdrol for 3 weeks after the dbol to harden the gains, or so I was told. Was a real fatty then and was really pissed at my friend who told me to use that shit when I was only training for 3 months ata gym, did 3 months home gym.

Then after a year I was about 79kg at about 16% fat and I was really depro about my body etc and I decided to use test and get it over with and be huge. So I dieted down for 2 weeks did a fish/chicken/black coffee only diet. I ended at 71kgs after 2 weeks.

Then I used supertest 2ml per week because I was told its 5 tests in one! :woohoo:

Weight went up to 86kgs, but I still wasnt happy so I saw a 'dieting guru' and I dieted down and ended at about 69kgs with still no abs or any good size whatsoever.

I then started to educate myself and do alot of research on roids,diet etc and with the help of knowledge I managed to get up to 76kgs where I am currenlty. My bodyfat is about 10-12% I would say, no abs, but thats where I store fat and also inner thighs and my back.

I realise I already fucked up my natural gains so I might as well make the best of all this. I want to do some fatloss and get really lean before I use anabolics again, which Im planning to do later this year.

Any advice?

I was thinking of a keto diet(never done one) and I want to use clen drops with T3 and sito-o-ject for m love handles and abs that just wont show.

Thanks, Platinum

Hi guys can anyone help me out with some advice please? :whistle: :whistle:

Have a read at the dieting 101 and 102 thread I wrote in the contest prep section.

Hi dj

I did read through those articles and thats what I already do hey. Im just not going further. Would you say a keto diet is the way to go?

Which one of these diets do you guys think is best for my case:
Ketogenic
Carb cycling
3 Carb meals (500cal deficit)

Thanks for the reply
Platinum

go for a keto diet, get some fat burners like clen and yohimbine, those 2 stack well together

Post up your diet are you sure its all that good?

I would say clen+riverject/yohimbine

It depends on what u have been doing already, the 3 meals of carbs a day is what works very well,but that also allows u for to doing High intensity cardio and training,but I do a lot of carb cycling with the 3 carb meals a day, ketogenic may work very well for u. Also maybe try changing your food sources,I see u have pineapple in your diet,I would maybe suggest swapping any fruit for complex carb sources of fiberous veg.

How much cardio are you doing daily? And how high is the intensity?

I was doing that 3 carb meals, but it didnt work that good hey, lost only 2% bodyfat after about 2 months.

At the moment this is my program:
Carb cycle, 3 days 0g carbs, 1 day 1000g carbs.

I do this on a low carb day:
Portion mince(+-100g)
3 Eggs with 1tsp. Olive oil

Tbsp.peanut butter
1 scoop whey

1.5 Protions mince or chicken or fish(+-150g)
Depending on protein source I add some olive oil
10 Almonds

1.5 Protions mince or chicken or fish(+-150g)
Depending on protein source I add some olive oil
10 Almonds

Tbsp.peanut butter
1 scoop whey

1 scoop whey

2 portions mince or chicken or fish(+-200g)
Again, depending on the meat I have some oil.

Tbsp olive oil
scoop casein

Im not completely clueless and I dont have that far to go hey, just need my diet to be 100%. I do no cardio at the moment, maybe MAX 30 min a week - I hate that shit :evil:

Oh the underlined stuff is my pre workout and post workout food.

I use Nutritech whey and PSN natural peanut butter.

Your 1000g of carb up days are your problem, I wouldn't do more than 300g of carbs, and u are pretty much going ketogenic so I would suggest just doing 1 carb up once a week.

U should also be doing 30mins of cardio 3x a week.

Thanks have you tried it dj?

Im not trying to attack you or anything,but are you confident its going to work?

Today im carbing up and my carbs are already over 450g.

Thanks alot for all the help. Do you guys think Hennie Kotze's diet is really that good? He told me he sells diets on facebook.

DJ preps guys for comps. trust me he knows what he is doing. how do you think he got 172 karma

LOL rvp.

I didnt know that, dj cant you help me build a customized diet then?

Pwetty please? :kiss:

Thanks guys

Henni kotze follows a diet that is layed out for him buy his coach named neil hill, neil hill coaches one of the best 212 competitors in the world flex lewis. I also prep guys for shows so yes I am confident that its gonna work,I can honestly say u are stuffing up your 3days hard work with going so high on your carb ups.

That is great news dj.

Okay so im going to still do carb ups, but only 300g carbs.

Just a few questions:
How is this stack, T3,Clen,Riverzine?
Do all the carbs on carb days have to be clean?
What kind of fatloss can I expect weekly?

Thanks boys!

T3 is a no go without any anabolics. Yes all the carbs have to be clean if fatloss is your goal, well adding in 20mins of cardio daily and cut back your carb ups to 300g clean carbs on a carb up day then u will experience decent fat loss. How long is a piece of string to your last question.

Hahaha laughed at the piece of string one

Okay im going to try that as of tommorow.

Im willing to add in anabolics and ive been of long enough so I can start a cycle, maybe I should go for a 6-8 week Test prop and proviron cycle, with the T3 and other stuff.

Why cant you use T3 without anabolics?

Thanks

coz it'll chow all your muscle

Rather just wait till you are at your body fat% before going onto a cycle just to use t3, t3 is a very powerful thyroid hormone bud,it doesn't distinguish between muscle and fat,so without anabolics u are going loose muscle mass,less muscle = slower metabolism. So u will end up eating into your precious hard earned muscle.

Thanks rvp, I realised that I would actually like to know why?

I know its tertroxin (thyroid hormone) and I know that my mother use to take it because her thyroid is stuffed. The thing is, before she started taking t3 she wasnt big snd muscular?

Or is this not the case?

Thanks dj.

How about riverzine and clen?

If all goes according to plan I should be lean in about 4 weeks - This is my excited face!

If her thyroid is stuffed that means she doesn't secrete a natural amount of t3,so she has to supplement it through the use of tertroxin, you secrete a normal amount of t3 so u will be taking additional amounts increasing your metabolic rate,causing a bigger calorie defecit,causing muscle wasting.

yeah just leave the gear for now. get some fat burners, as i said before clen and yohimbine stack well together. thats my preferred stack when im looking to lose some weight fast

Clen and reverzine is perfect,will help a lot.