summer cycle ?

Hwzt guys

I have just finished a cycle of test dbol and tbol , pct finished the other day. Gained about 7kg after pct but never did body fat before the cycle so a bit of guess work.I would like to do another small cycle for shredding and moderate muscle gain , will be happy with a few kgs.
Looking to start around november that will give me about 5 months off cycle.I got a fair amount of back acne from the last cycle i am thinking from the test , would obviously prefer not to have that on the summer cycle if possible.I also would like to keep the cycle shorter so maybe something with a smaller gap before pct?
What can you guys suggest this will be my second cycle.

maybe test prop and winstrol bud

Maybe throughout this 5 month gap, diet hard and see where that gets you in terms of leaning up before you decide which gear to use. Then if you're still battling to reach your goals, I'd also do what Spartacus said and run Prop, Winny and I would also throw in some Proviron.

I am fairly lean at the moment around 10% i guess going to get bodyfat checked this week.
Was thinking of an anavar and proviron cycle , but not sure if doing it without test would be a waste of time.I dont want to run a long cycle max 8 weeks.
I am not looking for massive gains on this cycle.

id go for 250mg test per week just as a base and add anavar @ 60-80mg (if you got the bucks)
Do add in the proviron through out. 40mg should be enough. Add some clen and ride the cycle for 6 weeks.

I have done a anavar/proviron cycle with very good results. a 8 week test prop/anavar/proviron cycle will be a great cycle to get ready for summer though

How much fatloss can one expect from anavar vs winstrol abc? Im planning my bridge which will end nicely when summer starts.

ABC how do you feel about anavar 40mg daily, proviron 20mg daily and riverject or clen for a summer cycle/bridge?

Megusta wrote: id go for 250mg test per week just as a base and add anavar @ 60-80mg (if you got the bucks)
Do add in the proviron through out. 40mg should be enough. Add some clen and ride the cycle for 6 weeks.

I would love to try some test prop but i am trying to sneak in another cycle this year without my wife knowing about it , if i get acne from the test she will know i am on a cycle

gorilla wrote: How much fatloss can one expect from anavar vs winstrol abc? Im planning my bridge which will end nicely when summer starts.

ABC how do you feel about anavar 40mg daily, proviron 20mg daily and riverject or clen for a summer cycle/bridge?

If your diet is spot on you can see some nice drop in bf. I dropped 3% and gained around 4 or 5kg on a 8 week anavar(80mg/day) and proviron (60mg/day). I guess it will differ from person to person. I have never used anavar at less than 80mg so i can't comment on lower dosage but i think 40mg/day is bit low for var. I would not go anything less than 60mg ed var and 60mg proviron ed.

As for the winni: if you read through the chemical structure the substance itself does not cause fatloss like var. Winni however is great for hardening up. Unfortunately you can only see truely how great winni is in this regard when your bf is around 8% or lower (in my case). Clen i don't like but i am sure it works and never used riverject but have only heard great things

philip wrote:

Megusta wrote: id go for 250mg test per week just as a base and add anavar @ 60-80mg (if you got the bucks)
Do add in the proviron through out. 40mg should be enough. Add some clen and ride the cycle for 6 weeks.

I would love to try some test prop but i am trying to sneak in another cycle this year without my wife knowing about it , if i get acne from the test she will know i am on a cycle

Then i would go for the anavar/proviron cycle. Don't run it too short (at least 8 weeks) and try go for 80mg var ed and 60mg (or more) proviron ed

Okay thanks abc

Im not on a tight budget, but I dont want to spend so much money in a short period on juice :lol:.
Ill be doing carb cycling very ttrict, i guess ill just do winny and proviron its still a good cutting stack isnt it?

What diet did you do when you ran the var?

ABC01 wrote:

philip wrote:

Megusta wrote: id go for 250mg test per week just as a base and add anavar @ 60-80mg (if you got the bucks)
Do add in the proviron through out. 40mg should be enough. Add some clen and ride the cycle for 6 weeks.

I would love to try some test prop but i am trying to sneak in another cycle this year without my wife knowing about it , if i get acne from the test she will know i am on a cycle

Then i would go for the anavar/proviron cycle. Don't run it too short (at least 8 weeks) and try go for 80mg var ed and 60mg (or more) proviron ed

Is there benefit in running primo with the anavar and provarin for the 8 weeks or does the cost of the primo out weight the possible benefits?

Little nervous
to work out a total cost for that cycle though

gorilla wrote: Okay thanks abc

Im not on a tight budget, but I dont want to spend so much money in a short period on juice :lol:.
Ill be doing carb cycling very ttrict, i guess ill just do winny and proviron its still a good cutting stack isnt it?

What diet did you do when you ran the var?

I remember the diet was low carbs for 1st 6 weeks then i upped the carbs for last 2 weeks and that was where all the weight gain happened while keeping bf constant. Think the breakdown for 1st 6 weeks was something like 220g protein/130g carbs/60g fat. Upped the carbs to about 200g for last 2 weeks. Starting weight was just over 78kg at 12.5% bf and ended at 82.2kg with 10% bf. If i remember correctly

Okay thats some low cals hey abc about 2000.

What do you think:
Riverject
Proviron
Winny

OR

Anavar
Riverject
*No proviron

gorilla wrote: Okay thats some low cals hey abc about 2000.

What do you think:
Riverject
Proviron
Winny

OR

Anavar
Riverject
*No proviron

I would just go the easy basic 1st cycle route with the winni. Im sure you will be getting a diet from DJ so you will be nice and lean when you start the winni. You will end nicely hard and vascular

gorilla wrote: Okay thats some low cals hey abc about 2000.

What do you think:
Riverject
Proviron
Winny

OR

Anavar
Riverject
*No proviron

Why don't you try Tbol you seem to want to gain as much as possible , isint tbol better for muscle gains than anavar or whinny ?

Not gonna spend more cash on a diet bro.

Okay I guess im going the winny and proviron route on a 2500cal diet as im heavier than you.

Did you do cardio?

gorilla wrote: Not gonna spend more cash on a diet bro.Okay I guess im going the winny and proviron route on a 2500cal diet as im heavier than you.

Did you do cardio?

sorry to say bud, but u going to waist your time then if a key diet is on the back cards.. we have all told you many times, stick to your basic cycle to start, get your diet spot on through dj.. and you WILL grow, stressless about the reverzine and the extras... test, bridge, pct.. growth..

My diet is already in check bro. :lol:

I dont need any help with cutting as ive figured out a good plan it worked wonders when I was cutting for a photoshoot.

Test cycle sorted, im thinking about a good cycle to bridge with and get shredded or atleast a little, winny and proviron and clen is pretty basic, just swapping clen for reverzine as I dont want to use clen too much, once a year is fine for me said my doc, he also said 3months of clen per year max.

gorilla wrote: Not gonna spend more cash on a diet bro.

Okay I guess im going the winny and proviron route on a 2500cal diet as im heavier than you.

Did you do cardio?

I did way too much cardio. At least 8hrs a week. No need for that