Nolvadex or Arimidex???

I'm currently on a dbol, proviron and test e cycle. Dbol @ 30mg ed, proviron @ 60mg ed and test e @ 600mg a week. Is nolvadex sufficient or do I need to use Arimidex with this dose of test e? Any advice would be much appreciated.

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Bandit1200 wrote: I'm currently on a dbol, proviron and test e cycle. Dbol @ 30mg ed, proviron @ 60mg ed and test e @ 600mg a week. Is nolvadex sufficient or do I need to use Arimidex with this dose of test e? Any advice would be much appreciated.

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Are you referring to PCT or an ai on hand ?

They both do totally different things bud, but heres my answer to both.

Tamoxifen Citrate whether kessar,nolvadex etc is a SERM (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator).

Tamoxifen actually competes for the receptor site in breast tissue, and binding to it. Thus, the effect of tamoxifen is through estrogen receptor blockade. Clearly, if you are on a cycle which includes aas which convert to estrogen, tamoxifen is used during pct to lessen the estrogen effects on the body and aid in increasing testosterone levels up to 150% which is needed in raising natural levels across the hpta axis off course you ideally (an absolute must!!) need to do a proper tried and tested pct which would be pct 1 in the articles section consisting of tamoxifen,hcg and clomid aromasin could be added but not necessary for your particular cycle

Google or search the forum for more info on tamoxifen citrate if needed.

Anastrozole (Armidex) is an AI (Aromatase inhibitor), anastrozole acts by blocking the enzyme aromatase, subsequently blocking the production of estrogen. This is the basic premise behind Nolvadex, except this drug blocks the action and not production of estrogen. The effects of Arimidex are quite dramatic to say the least. A daily dose of one tablet (1 mg) (armidex) can produce estrogen suppression greater than 80 % though a e3d (every third day) or e4d approach can be taken on cycle of 0.5mg taken to keep estrogen levels not too elevated and keeping sides at bay. I myself follw such protocol. One could take letro, also and AI but has very harsh sides, something not worth the extra few bucks you pay for it. Prices are not to be discussed but to give you an idea anastrozole is double +- that of letro.

Hope that helps, they are completely different compounds and should be treated as such. It advisable (i will not go without!) to keep and AI on hand during cycle to combat sides immediately insuring they do nor progress into full gyno this rule of thumb you really should follow. Also ensure you follow the recommended pct 1 in the articles section. How long is your cycle btw ? and what (if at all) is your bridging compounds of choice.

Please ask further question and ill do my best to answer, you seem uneducated with regards to your usage.

Regards,
Aspoester.

Thank for the reply. I know that nolvadex only binds to the receptors. Was just wonderring if it was necessary to use arimidex on this cycle? Should I only use it if signs of gyno occur or should it be used through my cycle anyway. I really appreciate the feed back. One more question. HCG, can I start using at about 4 weeks into my cycle or should I keep the HCG for PCT. Thanks.

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And yes, I am planning on bridging with winny.

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is it your first cycle?

This is my second cycle

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what was your first cycle? and were there any estrogenic sides?

First cycle was all nomad producs. Was not impressed but so we learn. Dbols, fast acting deca and nomatest (test combo) PCT clomid and nolva. Did not get any signs of gyno. Gains were not very impressive either.

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because of the crappy gear. just keep the adex on hand. you can run the HCG throughout your cycle (some prefer to do that) or during PCT, its up to you

I would like to run HCG though my cycle. Is 500iu's ew ok, from say week 4? I can feel more of a difference with one week on lp dbol than my entire cycle with nomad dbol. Crazy.

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every third week run 500iu/week for a week during the cycle.

Just to add I will never use nomads again.

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you shouldnt

Keep the Adex on hand. If you pick up aromatisation sides (I did at 500mg/week) then use 5 drops per day(depending on how bad the sides are) until they go away. If they persist, up the drops to 10 until they go away. You can then either discontinue or use 5 drops monday, wednesday, friday. That worked for me.

The nolva is used in PCT.

Hcg, I'm not disagreeing with Rvp but the other protocol is 250iu twice a week. It makes sense to me to take it on a more consistent basis.

Good luck

Thanks for all the input. 250 iu's twice a week start from week 3 or 4???? And for how long. I'm running test e for 12 weekks. Thanks

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