Trying to keep gains :/

Just finished a cycle of sust and Tren e .. Seen some really good gains but dont want to lose the majority. I understand that a good pct and diet is essential but will adding a course of hgh in between cycles help at all ?? I'm 24 years old .. Will it help ???

for fat loss yes, for major muscle growth,no

Woops, misread your post. Mods plz delete this post.

Fast hpta recovery=keeping gains more.

Go with doctaris pct with ovidrel and bridge with something like dbol, IMO that will add more mass in those 4-5 weeks thus you end up keeping more, I would also drop intensity a bit while doing pct and up the cals.

Use phosphatidylserine and vitamin C during and after pct for cortisol control. I would also use DAA and creatine. Just my 2c bro hope it helps.

2c is greatly appreciated and will follow that up ! Greatly appreciated guys !

Slight ignorance on my behalf .. Please explain this bridge with dbol ?? U take the d Bol while waiting for the first day of pct ?? And I never used an hcg during my course .. How bad is it if u don't use it ???

Sust waiting period for pct is 54 days. During that time I would use dbol if wanting more mass, winstrol if you want to cut up a bit and harden up.

Tren is very suppresive and IMO hcg is a absolute must. Even for test, some guys use it on cycle and some guys prefer it during pct. Doctari is a SA doctor and 130kgs if I remember correctly from a old post. He recommends the following pct after a tren/deca/EQ cycle.
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/images/downlo...le-therapy/PCT-3.pdf

I dont think think hcg is THAT important while ON cycle,but for pct I would not go without it even though I have not done a cycle of injectables in my life...yet
Just keep that in mind.

Maybe some more experienced guys will comment.

How were your gains bud>?

The bridging between cycles with dbol theory has been proven with blood work to be bull a long time ago. 10mg dbol DOES screw with your hpta and does delay recovery. You will feel good on 10mg dbol but feeling good is just that.

If you meant the bridge between cycle and pct then my bad

Muscleaddict wrote: The bridging between cycles with dbol theory has been proven with blood work to be bull a long time ago. 10mg dbol DOES screw with your hpta and does delay recovery. You will feel good on 10mg dbol but feeling good is just that.

If you meant the bridge between cycle and pct then my bad

I mean using dbol/winny while in the 54 day wait for pct to start. What do you reckon is a great addition to any pct muscleaddict? Give a secret will you

this reminds me of when that guy came on here claiming to have the method to retaining all gains with his Super PCT.. he never did tell us.

Thanks for the clarification !! I'm a massy kind of guy with average body fat so I will stick with dbol !! Gains were great !! Start weight was 102 and weighed myself to day and I'm 118 and dropped two percent body fat.. Strength gains were off the charts so I'm happy !! I'm hoping to step on stage for my second time but want this time to be competitive so taking now as an offseason so I can gain as much as possible !! I appreciate the time to reply guys !! Shot gents

16kg gain while dropping fat??

That my friend is a great gain holy shit! Post some before and after pics bud!

Well done keep it up. Remember to pct well or you can kiss those gains goodbye.

Cortisol is one of the main culprits in losing gains post cycle so I suggest some vit.C and E at a good dosage. DHEA and some phosphatidylserine, good rest and dropping your training intensity a bit. Also up those cals boet, your body needs food to sustain the new weight.

All the best.

gorilla wrote: I mean using dbol/winny while in the 54 day wait for pct to start. What do you reckon is a great addition to any pct muscleaddict? Give a secret will you

Haha, there is no secret. You've read it all on this forum before. I will say I do think aromasin makes a very big difference to pct and is worth ever cent. Especially if you are doing DAA in pct like you plan to, as there is some pretty compelling evidence that DAA causes the body to produce more aromatase.

Thanks once again gents !! I would say a lot of gains is water retention but fat has dropped but still not as lean as I like .. Im a total hypocrit as I follow a clean diet Monday to Friday but kill it on the weekends and I find it so hard to constantly be lean but sustainable to be bulky .. I will stock up on the pct and dbol and will let u guys know how it goes !!!