Oral Primobolan & Proviron

Is this cycle money and time waste? If i ever start i will like to ease into something mild and see how dedicated ill be, no point in rushing into something that you cant do 100%.

So far im getting really hooked on steroid info by it self. Im a forum junkie! :woohoo:

That is i great attidude Byron! Im also interested in primo all of a sudden. I want to add a question here that might relate to yours

How would the gains on a 10 week primo ace cycle at 100mg ed with 40mg proviron ed compare to the gains from a 8 week var cycle at 80mg ed with proviron at 40mg ed?

ABC similar gains, I would say more size with the Primo but less Strength that is my person opinion. However the side effects of the Primo would be allot less, and you could run the Primo Ace for 14 weeks if you wanted.

@Pump: Excuse my ignorance if that's the case, but isn't Primo Ace an oral steroid therefore having a 14 week cycle of the stuff placing huge strain on the liver? I can see why someone would want to do this if its an oral that's relatively safe if you can put it that way, but even if its not an oral I would love to try it some time. Heard the gains from Primo are amazing, and now that size has been noted it's really caught my attention. How would Primo gains compare to a Test or Supertest cycle for example? Haven't really come across a comparison like that before, and if Primo is as amazing as everyone makes it out to be then I'm seriously considering it in my next cycle.

mk. you can run primo oral right through. Primobolan is a non-17-alpha-alkylated steroid it loses allot of its potency when taken orally, the positive side of this is alkylation is what actually causes the liver toxicity.

Gab, I'm a little confused with what you just said there bud, surely if it's non-17-alpha-alkylated then no liver toxicity exists?

sorry man. very little toxicity. you can run it for long. i coppied from article. came out weird sounding

No problem bud, was just a little confused. Just would really like to know how a Supertest only cycle would compare to a Cyp/Enanth and Primo cycle in terms of strength and size gains from guys who've used all these compounds.

gains will be def much better. good lean mass gains. it will cost you and arm and a leg if you are on a budget. will be 5-10 times more pricey depending on the dose though.

Yea MK, there are better options for a lean bulk at that crazy price. Rather stick with your previous idea for NPP + Test. That is a great combo and much better value for money even with caber added.

For your 2nd cycle you will grow like a weed on 640mg super test. Primo is unnecessary but would obviously be synergistic.

Muscleaddict wrote: Yea MK, there are better options for a lean bulk at that crazy price. Rather stick with your previous idea for NPP + Test. That is a great combo and much better value for money even with caber added.

For your 2nd cycle you will grow like a weed on 640mg super test. Primo is unnecessary but would obviously be synergistic.

i agree bud, im on npp + en at the moment, absolutely loving the lean gains! and it hasnt left me broke haha... will def do another npp course in the future! stick to the original planned cycle imo

Awesome thanks a lot guys, was just a little concerned because of the lack of growth with my first cycle despite my diet and training being the best I've had. Was probably due to other factors though.

Will stick to the Supertest for my second cycle and then for my third, depending on how my gains on Supertest alone went, I will use it to stack with NPP. Looking forward to it, hopefully I end up with results that I'm happy with this time!

PoisonedPulse, glad to hear that bro. I'm sure your diet must be spot on if you're getting lean gains from the Test E AND the NPP! What were your starting goals, and what have your gains been like?