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tonysi30
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04 May 2012 16:55 #103006 by tonysi30

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thinking of doing this for my next cycle so would like to know if its a gud ideia.
Enanthe 3 times 10 ml, Tribolan 20ml, Propinate 20 ml and androstin pills 50. inject every second day for a month.
this will be a month cycle.
Thanks for any advice

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CHAPEL
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04 May 2012 17:02 #103008 by CHAPEL

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no that's shit.

How many cycles have you done and what are your stats.

Then we will get to why its shit.

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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tonysi30
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04 May 2012 18:24 #103019 by tonysi30

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it will be my 3rd cycle first cycle was deca 300 and sust 325, 2nd cycle was tren and test and nw want to try sumthing diferent for my next cycle. im 92 kgs 1.81 cm and 6.5 body fat.

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spike
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05 May 2012 00:26 #103042 by spike

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A month long cycle?? 4 weeks? And you wanna use enanthate? But why?

Um, but im scared of needles...

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Eidolon
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05 May 2012 01:09 #103043 by Eidolon

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6.5% body fat :woohoo:

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tonysi30
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05 May 2012 07:20 #103044 by tonysi30

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it was recomended to me by my suplier he said it was a gud bulking cycle. thats y i need advice to c if its worth taking or not.

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tonysi30
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05 May 2012 07:22 #103045 by tonysi30

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yes 6.5 acording to virgin active technology

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spike
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05 May 2012 09:13 - 05 May 2012 09:15 #103051 by spike

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ok forget virgin active technology, post a pic (face edited out) on here and we'll give you a better estimation of bf. As for a 4 week cycle, a complete waste on those compounds. Enanthate won't even start to take effect in that time frame, ten weeks minimum

Um, but im scared of needles...

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tonysi30
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05 May 2012 09:38 #103055 by tonysi30

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spike wrote: ok forget virgin active technology, post a pic (face edited out) on here and we'll give you a better estimation of bf. As for a 4 week cycle, a complete waste on those compounds. Enanthate won't even start to take effect in that time frame, ten weeks minimum

will do. so is a good cycle to do for 10 weeks?

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vega5
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05 May 2012 10:44 #103057 by vega5

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tonysi30 wrote: yes 6.5 acording to virgin active technology

So its possible for it to be 30%

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tonysi30
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05 May 2012 10:56 #103059 by tonysi30

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vega5 wrote:
tonysi30 wrote: yes 6.5 acording to virgin active technology
So its possible for it to be 30%

Vega5 my man im quite sure in nt on 30% bf.
and if i am 30% then comparin to ur profile pic then u would be on over 60% :lol:

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vega5
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05 May 2012 11:05 #103063 by vega5

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I hate those machines! I've taken three measurements in a row once and it was a 20% swing.
Anyway, I would agree with hitting the Testen cycle for a minimum of 10 weeks maybe push it to 12-15 even IMO.

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kkx250
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05 May 2012 11:51 #103070 by kkx250

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There is some pretty good sample cycles on this site. Have a look and tell your supplier what u want. I wouldn't take his advice if I were u.

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tonysi30
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05 May 2012 11:57 #103072 by tonysi30

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kkx250 wrote: There is some pretty good sample cycles on this site. Have a look and tell your supplier what u want. I wouldn't take his advice if I were u.

Really apreciated i want to bulk wana reach at least 100kgs what do u sugest and bere in mind its my 3rd cycle.

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David.biohazard
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05 May 2012 12:49 #103083 by David.biohazard

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Dude a definite must would be Testen and NPP. Beautiful cycle and awesome gains

That is what makes a bodybuilder a true bodybuilder, and that is to be simply.....

PURELY DIFFERENT FROM THE REST

LIVE IT OR LEAVE IT!

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Muscleaddict
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05 May 2012 17:30 #103142 by Muscleaddict

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David.biohazard wrote: Dude a definite must would be Testen and NPP. Beautiful cycle and awesome gains

I love this combo as well. One of my favourites. I'm thinking of using them again for my next cycle.

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MK
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06 May 2012 12:54 #103205 by MK

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@David: How would you structure a Testen and NPP cycle? Never read about a short and long ester cycle before so quite curious as to cycle length, pinning days and dosages of each compound.

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David.biohazard
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06 May 2012 12:59 #103206 by David.biohazard

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600mg Testen and 300mg NPP a week split mondays and thurs for 10 weeks bud

That is what makes a bodybuilder a true bodybuilder, and that is to be simply.....

PURELY DIFFERENT FROM THE REST

LIVE IT OR LEAVE IT!

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VonD
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06 May 2012 13:02 - 06 May 2012 13:03 #103207 by VonD

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my friend is doing this one.

week 1-16 test e @ 900mg(pins tuesdays,thursday,saterday)
Week 9-16 npp @ 450mg(pins tuesdays,thursday,saterday)
Week 1-6 oral turinabol @ 60mg
Week 1-16 Proviron @ 60mg

can slso add Equi @ 700mg if you want or depending on the number of cycles you have done.

Last edit: 06 May 2012 13:03 by VonD. Reason: addition

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MK
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06 May 2012 20:44 #103251 by MK

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@David: Just curious, but isn't the NPP normally run at the same dose as Test? And can NPP really be run on only 2 shots per week? I would love to try it if it can, possibly as a third cycle in the future sometime, but it's just that I've read so many conflicting views about correct timing of injections when using shorter esters. Also I'm not so sure that 10 weeks of NPP will be so good for a third cycle. Have you tried that cycle, and if so, what were your gains like? Also heard that NPP must be run 2 weeks shorter than the test...

Perhaps as a third cycle I could run something like this:
Week 1-10: 600mg Testen
Week 2-8: 300mg NPP

@VonD: Looks like a good cycle bro, but definitely one for the more experienced users. What week is he in now and what have his gains been like?

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David.biohazard
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06 May 2012 21:08 #103253 by David.biohazard

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Hey bud, go look at the thread I posted about my comp and you will see what gains I made in only a month of that exact cycle. NPP has a half life of 5 days, if I remember correctly so bi weekly shots not a problem. As for hitting it at the same dose as test, that's a no no as its is still a nandrolone and test needs to be 1.5 x more. Still has the same sides as deca even though its a shorter ester. You could easily gain 10kg's from this cycle. Obviously with diet in check. Should be fine to run NPP for the full 10 weeks maybe even go for 15 weeks, with test. Just make sure you have ovidrel in your arsenal for PCT and you should be good to go. And frontload with dbol.

That is what makes a bodybuilder a true bodybuilder, and that is to be simply.....

PURELY DIFFERENT FROM THE REST

LIVE IT OR LEAVE IT!

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MK
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06 May 2012 21:59 #103254 by MK

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Alright will do man, thanks a lot. Were the gains you made in that month, made in the first month of the 10 week cycle or what? Sorry just a bit confused there. Alright, I will make sure that I run the Testen at AT LEAST 450mg per week. Running the Testen at 500mg per week would give me exactly 12 weeks on Testen so might even decide to do that.

Seeing you say NPP has the same sides as deca whats the point of running it over deca? Will I definitely need Cialis throughout the cycle in that case? I think for a first time with a suppressive compound like NPP I'll only run it for a relatively short time such as 6-7 weeks. Or would you say otherwise?

The only thing I'm concerned about is stable blood levels with the biweekly shots... Hopefully we can get some reassurance from some other users? Will go take a look at the pics now bud, thanks.

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David.biohazard
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06 May 2012 22:19 #103255 by David.biohazard

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Yup, that was the first month of my 10week cycle bud. What brand of Testen will you be taking? I know PGW's make is 300mg/ml, so easiest to take 2ml per week. Their NPP is 150mg/ml so again 2ml per week would be the easiest again.

NPP has a much shorter half life than Deca hence why it should be ok for you to run the full 10 weeks with test. Wouldn't stress too much with its suppression as the test will be double that of NPP and the fact that's its half life is half of that of Testen. Just make sure you implement Doctari's PCT and you will be fine. Sorry but I don't know what Cialis is?

Blood plasma levels will be fine with bi weekly shots. Its half life is 5 days and there is only 7 in a week and you'll be doing shots mon and thurs.

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David.biohazard
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06 May 2012 22:29 #103256 by David.biohazard

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Ok just read what Cialis is, don't think that will be neccessary bud hence why you always keep your test 1.5 x more than Nandrolone. I had know problems with sex drive or ed on this cycle. Have you experienced any of these symptoms in your previous cycles?

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MK
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06 May 2012 22:29 #103257 by MK

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Just took a look at your comp thread, nice results bro! I also want to get my legs huge. And will be running PGW only for both compounds. And in that case I might just run 10 weeks of NPP at 300mg with Test E at 500mg per week. Reckon 300mg NPP is enough to put on 10kgs like you said, even if at that stage I'm near 100kgs? Just a little concerned, because I can't get Aromasin so not so sure I'd like to even think about a cycle like that before I know that I can get Aromasin and do the full Doctari PCT... And Cialis helps with preventing deca dick if I'm not correct?

And biweekly shots will make things so much easier, so glad that EOD's can be avoided. Thanks for all your help bud!

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