please help this beginner

Helo, the name is De Wet.
Im 23 years old gyming for 3 years, 83kg, 1,79.
Im abit short on money but im thinking of using roids.

Im gonna use test cyp. for six weeks but I would realy like to use some dianaballs with it.
Will it be ok if i lower the dosage for dianaballs like using only 1 on 2 pills everyday or will this be completely useless??

I would also like to know as to when im on pct should i use both nolvadex and clomid? or would just using 1 have the same affect as i am on a budget????

Thanx

Cyp takes 4-5 weeks to kick in. So thats one week of gaining. Bro if you dont even know the basics I suggest you stay away from roids for now and do some more research. No offense

Check out the articles on this site on pct, some drug profiles and sample cycles. Then come back if you still have any questions, we will be happy to help.

Good luck and keep going strong bud.

gotta run the test for 10 weeks mate. It only kicks in at the stage where you are wanting to stop it. You don't have to add in the dbol if your budget is low, if you really want it though, 20mg a day works for some people I know, but the norm is 30-40mg/day on a first cycle. You need both the nolva and the clomid. Just make sure your budget is big enough for food or you will be wasting your cash and time.

gorilla he knows a bit more by the look of it than the average clown who comes on here.. At least he has the basic structure right.

ok the thing is there was quit a diffrence of opinion about this at this other site. But I belive you guys, and i have done quit a bit of research about this subject, and dont worry ill have more food than i can ever eat, so do you guys think it would make a noticeble difference using the dianaballs also??? and also if I do only this one cycle would it be a prob??

Thanx alot!!

ye trust me the info on this site is right. Dbol gives mostly water but its nice to have the strength and added size at the beginning of the cycle while you are waiting for your test to kick in. It will definitely make a noticeable difference. Its a good basic cycle man, doubt its gonna be a problem unless you get tested for sport or something.

De Wet wrote: ok the thing is there was quit a diffrence of opinion about this at this other site. But I belive you guys, and i have done quit a bit of research about this subject, and dont worry ill have more food than i can ever eat, so do you guys think it would make a noticeble difference using the dianaballs also??? and also if I do only this one cycle would it be a prob??

Thanx alot!!

I'm curious as to what the difference of opinion was exactly? What site was this? (Not sure if I'm allowed to ask that or if De Wet is allowed to post the site name)

What dosage of Test are you aiming at per week? If you want to save cost rather drop the Dbol and get another vial of test. That way you will have the maximum affect of the test for sufficient cycle length. 250mg Test a week will be just fine for a first cycle and you could even bump it up to 375mg (1.5ml if its dosed at 250mg/ml). More than that will be overkill for a first cycle IMO.

As for PCT rather do it properly. Shortcuts here will make ur whole cycle useless and a waste. Correctly applied pct protocols is crucial

it was some amarican site but I diceded id rathar take advice from south africans than those yankees thy said 6 weeks max for a beginner, im looking at 300mg a week?? but i think the guy im buying at has quit expensive prices.. but I donno if im allawed to talk about this here?? but i think im wait a while and save up some money to get the dianaballs too.

Nope stay clear of discussing prices

P.s. Didn't know Diana had balls.....must have castrated Charles after Will's birth :lol:

Most good test comes in 10ml vials. 1ml a week will equals 10 weeks. 2 dbols a day will last 25 days. Nearly sounds like a cycle. Why don't you save some more and dubbel up on everything? I would rather spend double than loose half.

ok then its kwl but can so you say that 1ml a week are too little??? im gona do 3 dbols a day for 4 weeks and then 400mg a week of test cyp???

MCJ knows his shit. I would go with what he says on this one. So I take it that on 400 a week you are stil planning on running the test for 6 weeks?

What is your bodyfat now? You say you will hve more food than what you can eat, but can not afford a proper cycle? Post your diet please

im gona do the 10 week cycle... my bodyfat is 11 persent so i think thats ok?? Ill do like alot of pro-nutro in the morning with yogurt and a egg or two, then two hours later il eat some 2minute noodles lol i know thats not the best but hey, and then two hours later il have some staek and patatoes and maby some rice and veggies, and two hours late some cheese and yogurt, and then for supper some boerewors and boerkos

De Wet wrote: im gona do the 10 week cycle... my bodyfat is 11 persent so i think thats ok?? Ill do like alot of pro-nutro in the morning with yogurt and a egg or two, then two hours later il eat some 2minute noodles lol i know thats not the best but hey, and then two hours later il have some staek and patatoes and maby some rice and veggies, and two hours late some cheese and yogurt, and then for supper some boerewors and boerkos

Had a feeling I was going to see this. No cycle for you bud :pinch: . Diet is very bad. Go to diet section and do some reading.

De Wet get some help on a diet first. It will only do you good and will maximise your results you SHOULD achieve on cycle. Ur not getting enough protein and ur carb choices and fats are bad ones. Even the boerewors is a poor choice of protein due to the high fat content. But....that's not what u asked initially. I'm sure its not what u want to hear but everyone here will tel u the same thing.

Sort jou diet uit boeta en dan looi jy di opkikkertjies. Sterkte boerseun

De Wet wrote: im gona do the 10 week cycle... my bodyfat is 11 persent so i think thats ok?? Ill do like alot of pro-nutro in the morning with yogurt and a egg or two, then two hours later il eat some 2minute noodles lol i know thats not the best but hey, and then two hours later il have some staek and patatoes and maby some rice and veggies, and two hours late some cheese and yogurt, and then for supper some boerewors and boerkos

Nee my broer, daai diet gaan nie werk nie!

De Wet as the guys are telling you,get your diet in place first.Read around on the site a bit more,all the info on here can be trusted,also when looking at a first cycle,why complicate it with wondering around,go to the beginner sample bulking cycle,everything is on there PCT the lot,even what days to take what,also i would recommend sticking to exactly the gear they tell you there,PGW and LP.You will not regret it.
PS:just get that diet ready bro,everyone started somewhere so i am just glad you joined the forum!!! GREAT

ok thanx ill have a good loook at my diet, and btw what I forgot to mention was the protein shake 50gram pure whey that i take after gym and when i go to sleep, but anyway thanx for the advice, oh and johan I wont be able to do that becouse the only thing my dealer is able to get me is test cyp and dianaball.
Then maby ill just find a new dealer

Please do that De Wet,i am sure your "dealer" is only trying to make a quick buck,rather see if you can find someone you can trust,there is too many bad gear out there to take chances with it.Don't waste your money.Good luck