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13 Apr 2012 16:02 #100414 by Waldu
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Hey guys, just wainting for my diet then ill probebly start my cycle.

2x PGW Testocyp (250mg x 10ml)
500mg weekly
2x LP Dianabol (10mg x 50)
40mg ED

The cycle suggested injecting on day 1 then 4 then 8 and so on. Should I just keep it simple and make it say sunday thursday split?

Then coming to gyno...as its my first cycle I don't know if I'm prone to gyno (never had any teen probs tho) I'm gona keep letro by hand should I start off letro at beginning of cycle? Thought I'd wait and see how my body react to the test. Good or bad idea?

Lastly, any tips for a first timer?

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13 Apr 2012 16:36 #100417 by Waldu
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Also doing winstrol bridge 40mg ED week 12 to 16. Thinking of adding proviron to that aswell.

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13 Apr 2012 16:41 #100418 by Empire
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Wait to see if u get gyno bud... Do winstrol and proviron form week 10-15 just do monday thursday shots bud

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13 Apr 2012 16:45 #100419 by Waldu
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Thanx much DJ. Proviron 40mg ED aswell?

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13 Apr 2012 16:49 #100421 by Empire
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Yes sir

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13 Apr 2012 20:19 #100435 by regz
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are you front loading with the DB?

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13 Apr 2012 20:21 #100436 by Waldu
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Yes regz that correct

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13 Apr 2012 21:09 #100442 by gorilla
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Hi waldu, add the proviron if you can it works together with winny nicely.

About the gyno, i would keep letro on hand, but remember it takes two weeks to reach full suppresion, maybe have some kessar on hand as well and when gyno starts flaring add that @ 40mg for a week the drop to 20mg daily for the next week.

Good luck and enjoy to the fullest. ;)

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15 Apr 2012 11:43 #100629 by Waldu
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Thanx gorilla I'm sure ill enjoy this one as ill be on DJ diet aswell. Should get max gains from my cycle. Starting cycle tomorow, must say I'm kind nervous for my firts pin. But I'm checking out protocols the whole day so I think ill be alright haha.

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15 Apr 2012 11:49 #100630 by gorilla
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Waldu wrote: Thanx gorilla I'm sure ill enjoy this one as ill be on DJ diet aswell. Should get max gains from my cycle. Starting cycle tomorow, must say I'm kind nervous for my firts pin. But I'm checking out protocols the whole day so I think ill be alright haha.


Dont stress it bro, maybe pin quads so you can see what youre doing the first time i know people tend to cramp up pinning glutes lol. Enjoy growing bro im sure you will and REMEMBER TO ASPIRATE!

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15 Apr 2012 11:58 #100633 by Waldu
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That's one of the most important factors. Don't want the test directly in the veins now. One thing I mabey missed in the protocol is how much to aspirate? Any idea?

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15 Apr 2012 12:53 #100640 by ABC01
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You can always pin once a week with a long ester if you don't want to rotate too many injection sites. More stable blood levels pinning 2 x per week with a long ester is debatable

Aspirate slightly. If you penetrated a vein you will notice blood quickly.

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15 Apr 2012 13:05 #100641 by Waldu
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ABC01 wrote: You can always pin once a week with a long ester if you don't want to rotate too many injection sites. More stable blood levels pinning 2 x per week with a long ester is debatable

Aspirate slightly. If you penetrated a vein you will notice blood quickly.


Thanx man

Ok this one is for educational purposes only...I won't even try it until I have a crap load of experience.
I saw in acual medical studies that they take in a extra bit of air with the test before injecting for coservation perpose. Basicly that you use all the product even that little bit left in the needle. This would mean they inject a slight bit of air with the test into the muscle. This would not cause any damage if you aspirate correctly.

Does anyone use this method?

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15 Apr 2012 13:10 #100644 by gorilla
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I watched drug inc the other day and those heroin guys inject a shitload of air into a vein. I wouldnt fuck with it if I dont know what im doing just stick to what you know.

Also note that it takes like 3-5cc air to kill you.

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15 Apr 2012 13:15 #100645 by Waldu
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I myself wouldn't do this either. But surely air into a muscle hasn't got the same effect as air in a vein.

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15 Apr 2012 13:20 #100648 by CHAPEL
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waldu it is fine to do that.. It gets all the test out of the syringe.. I can't seem to get it right every time but when you do the bubble by the plunger will force everything in and you are good to go..

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15 Apr 2012 13:25 #100649 by Waldu
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CHAPEL wrote: waldu it is fine to do that.. It gets all the test out of the syringe.. I can't seem to get it right every time but when you do the bubble by the plunger will force everything in and you are good to go..


Thanx bud. Bit ill wait till I have a bit more experience with injecting.

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