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14 Mar 2012 21:09 #97122 by severino
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Just about to start my first cycle and wondered if anyone could give me advice on the optimum dosage etc...

I have the following products

2 x 10ml Equibol (600mg per ml)
2 x 10ml Testabol (600mg per ml)

I also have 60 x 50mg Winstrol tabs.

At present I have 30 x 20mg Tamoxifen...I'll have some HCG in place when the time comes for the PCT...

I have read that I am best splitting the dosages - taken on a monday and thursday. I intend to do this by taking 300test/300Eq on the said days - so 600mg of each per week....I'll do this until I have ran out.

By reading on the site I have discovered that I should use Winstrol to Bridge for 3 weeks before commencing PCT - question here is do I still continue to use the Winstrol through PCT or cease immediately before starting it?...if that was to be the case once PCT is completed would I then be fine to finish off the Winstrol or save it for a another stack?

Thanks in advance
Seve

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14 Mar 2012 21:13 - 14 Mar 2012 21:17 #97123 by VonD
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welcome bud

now what brand are you using?

Its impossible to get 600mg of a substance into 1ml of oil.Its like trying to dissolve 5kg of salt in 300ml.

You need to get a good brand like PGW,axio.

you gear is wrongly dosed so you wont have an idea of how much to use.
sorry for the bad news.

judging from your knowledge i would say do some more research bud before using roids.

Whats your stats?height,weight,age,bf% ect
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14 Mar 2012 21:13 #97124 by gorilla
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Fake gear. 600mg/ml is impossible. Go with test only for 10-12 weeks 300-600mg PW, keep arimidex on hand incase gyno shows up. Winny stopped 1.5 days before pct. After last test e or cyp shot whatever ester ure using wait 3x halflife befor commencing pct. Then do pct number 2 in the download section, leave the EQ for a future cycle.

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14 Mar 2012 23:05 #97153 by severino
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Apologies guys -

the equibol is 300mg per ml and so the test is testabol 400 - so 400mg per ml too....

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14 Mar 2012 23:19 #97154 by severino
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Thanks for your replying guys..Yes I am new to steroids but Ive been training a while and I've been toying with trying them for years..

My age 34
Height 183
Weight 89 kilos

The make of the both test and eq is starlabs and the winstrol is prochem

Gorilla - what makes you suggest to use the eq after the test? i'm not questioning your knowledge at all just asking your opinion why you would use it in another way or stack?

Thanks again lads

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14 Mar 2012 23:26 #97155 by VonD
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In a first cycle you keep it as simple as possible and you need to see how you react to test.equi can be added in a later cycle when your knowledge has grown and you know how you react to steroids.

i dont know the brands you are using but they will probably be poor quality.

try to get PGW

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14 Mar 2012 23:37 #97156 by severino
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OK, thanks for that - I have read reviews over in the uk about this lab and the initial reports back are that it seems like a decent brand...I'll give them a go and let you know..

Think I'll just try the test then to start off and see

Cheers
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15 Mar 2012 06:51 #97166 by gorilla
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400mg/ml is also a bit high, but anyway its your first cycle and you will grow on test only so why incorporate more when less is going to produce the same results? Check out the begginers buklking cycle in the download section and read on EQ, it kicks in only after 6 weeks so its best run 14-16 weeks. Also get an AI and keep it on hand in case you get gyno.

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15 Mar 2012 06:52 #97167 by gorilla
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Wait...Your first post you said it was your 1st cycle and now you say youve been toying and trying for years. Whats your cycle history?

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15 Mar 2012 09:09 #97183 by severino
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This is my first cycle - i've been wanting to try steroids for a long time but only recently took the plunge...

another quickie - did my first injection on monday morning into the upper part of my right thigh, pretty painless and no bruising at all around the site. I've since trained monday, tuesday (cardio) and wednesday - yesterday evening though the inner part of my right thigh has become tender to touch and gradually more sore all round - it's also harder than my left...is this pretty common when first starting out and if so what could be the cause and method of preventing such issues.

Thanks again for all your responses, your advice is much appreciated.
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15 Mar 2012 09:34 #97185 by Eidolon
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Did you inject in the inner thigh?

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15 Mar 2012 21:44 #97298 by severino
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Eidolon wrote: Did you inject in the inner thigh?


It was done in the upper middle part.....all of today my thigh has been really tender and difficult for me to walk, however these last few hours it has eased off and I'm pretty much fully mobile again...had a similar reaction to an injection that was done in my arm years ago before travelling abroad...

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