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Just spent a few hours reading through old threads and came across a thread by doctari, he suggested a short 6 week test prop cycle lean mass cycle. What do you guys think? Im planning a first cycle and i really want to go lightly and do minimal harm to my body, would appreciate if some senior guys can answer this one...hehe
I was thinking;
Week 1-6: Test prop 100mg EOD
Week 1-6: Masteron prop 100mg EOD
Week 7-8: Winstrol 50mg ED
Adex on cycle .5mg EOD
Now, i was also thinking of a cheaper version;
Week 1-6: Test prop*
Week 1-6: Superdrol 30mg ED
Adex on cycle .5mg EOD
Questions:
* Should i up the test dose to say 150mg EOD?
* When does prop kick in?
* Should i add in proviron for the last 4 weeks and stopping just before pct?
* Which cycle do you guys prefer?
Thanks
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Week 1-10 600mg test en,
Week 1-4 40mg dbol daily(oral t If you are feeling adventurous)
Week 11-14 40mg proviron + 40mg winstrol,
Week 15 start your pct.
Simple. Loads of guys have run this/ currently running this with awesome results,u don't need to complicate things...
What happened to definantly running 750mg of test a week like u told us all when jakes was still around? Have u finally seen the light that he was just a doos trying to make more sales?
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MCJ doing a one man mexican wave :lol:DJ wrote: I don't get this thread,u know how to do a proper first cycle with long ester test yet u keep on adding threads about doing different compounds etc,just keep things simple, do a normal long ester test cycle instead of opening a 1000 threads about cycles about your first real cycle or a mates cycle,or a mate of a mates cycle...
Week 1-10 600mg test en,
Week 1-4 40mg dbol daily(oral t If you are feeling adventurous)
Week 11-14 40mg proviron + 40mg winstrol,
Week 15 start your pct.
Simple. Loads of guys have run this/ currently running this with awesome results,u don't need to complicate things...
What happened to definantly running 750mg of test a week like u told us all when jakes was still around? Have u finally seen the light that he was just a doos trying to make more sales?
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DJ wrote: I don't get this thread,u know how to do a proper first cycle with long ester test yet u keep on adding threads about doing different compounds etc,just keep things simple, do a normal long ester test cycle instead of opening a 1000 threads about cycles about your first real cycle or a mates cycle,or a mate of a mates cycle...
Week 1-10 600mg test en,
Week 1-4 40mg dbol daily(oral t If you are feeling adventurous)
Week 11-14 40mg proviron + 40mg winstrol,
Week 15 start your pct.
Simple. Loads of guys have run this/ currently running this with awesome results,u don't need to complicate things...
What happened to definantly running 750mg of test a week like u told us all when jakes was still around? Have u finally seen the light that he was just a doos trying to make more sales?
Yeah i guess i did! All im looking for is the safest cycle that will do the least harm! Not looking for any massive size, i'd rather do 3x 6-8 week cycles than 1 moerse one, but thanks bud. And sorry bout the jakes thing... :oops:
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gorilla wrote: All im looking for is the safest cycle that will do the least harm!
Not looking for any massive size
The standard first cycle, which is super safe with almost zero sides if you are not overly sensitive is something like supertest, or a long ester test (Cyp or Enan) with a kicker if you like, at 250-320mg a week.
You are not looking for massive size but if this is your first cycle, using quality PGW products and good diet you will gain super massive size and strength on a cycle like that.
You will need nothing else except for hCG and tamoxifen for PCT and on hand for potential gyno.
Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view
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gorilla wrote: Does a first cycle HAVE to be a long ester? 10 weeks on cycle and then another 4 weeks befor pct, thats 14 weeks. Cant i do prop @ 100mg EOD for 8weeks?
Yes you can do a test prop first cycle I think it just the eod jab that some first time users are not
Comfortable with
To pin every 3rd day can be frustrating for some users. Lol
But otherwise I don’t see a problem with it
But do the cycle DJ suggested much easier, more practical
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gorilla wrote:
DJ wrote: I don't get this thread,u know how to do a proper first cycle with long ester test yet u keep on adding threads about doing different compounds etc,just keep things simple, do a normal long ester test cycle instead of opening a 1000 threads about cycles about your first real cycle or a mates cycle,or a mate of a mates cycle...
Week 1-10 600mg test en,
Week 1-4 40mg dbol daily(oral t If you are feeling adventurous)
Week 11-14 40mg proviron + 40mg winstrol,
Week 15 start your pct.
Simple. Loads of guys have run this/ currently running this with awesome results,u don't need to complicate things...
What happened to definantly running 750mg of test a week like u told us all when jakes was still around? Have u finally seen the light that he was just a doos trying to make more sales?
Yeah i guess i did! All im looking for is the safest cycle that will do the least harm! Not looking for any massive size, i'd rather do 3x 6-8 week cycles than 1 moerse one, but thanks bud. And sorry bout the jakes thing... :oops:
the cycle dj sugested, is not a "moerse" cycle. wake up bru listen to the advice.
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gorilla wrote: Does a first cycle HAVE to be a long ester? 10 weeks on cycle and then another 4 weeks befor pct, thats 14 weeks. Cant i do prop @ 100mg EOD for 8weeks?
ok gorilla. i get where you are at.
i understand you are a bit scared especially now that you dont have okes like jakes around that supports every thing you say.
just be cool about it. test at 10 wees and test at 8 weeks is still the same. just your esters is different.
if you are scared about stuffing up yourself why dont you just do a lower dosed cycle of test cyp 250 mg a week. you dont have to be rambo to get big. speak to inja about it also. youll get good results from it and at least you will know how you react to test.
everyone is scared of their first cycle. its ok. it doesnt make you less of a man.
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gab wrote:
gorilla wrote: Does a first cycle HAVE to be a long ester? 10 weeks on cycle and then another 4 weeks befor pct, thats 14 weeks. Cant i do prop @ 100mg EOD for 8weeks?
ok gorilla. i get where you are at.
i understand you are a bit scared especially now that you dont have okes like jakes around that dont support every thing you say.
just be cool about it. test at 10 wees and test at 8 weeks is still the same. just your esters is different.
if you are scared about stuffing up yourself why dont you just do a lower dosed cycle of test cyp 250 mg a week. you dont have to be rambo to get big. speak to inja about it also. youll get good results from it and at least you will know how you react to test.
everyone is scared of their first cycle. its ok. it doesnt make you less of a man.
Thanks bro! yes i am scared and thinking of all the options and researching and askling questions but when i do then people like mcj get pissed, SORRY! Im just scared of stuffing myself up and looking at all other options.
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gorilla wrote:
gab wrote:
gorilla wrote: Does a first cycle HAVE to be a long ester? 10 weeks on cycle and then another 4 weeks befor pct, thats 14 weeks. Cant i do prop @ 100mg EOD for 8weeks?
ok gorilla. i get where you are at.
i understand you are a bit scared especially now that you dont have okes like jakes around that dont support every thing you say.
just be cool about it. test at 10 wees and test at 8 weeks is still the same. just your esters is different.
if you are scared about stuffing up yourself why dont you just do a lower dosed cycle of test cyp 250 mg a week. you dont have to be rambo to get big. speak to inja about it also. youll get good results from it and at least you will know how you react to test.
everyone is scared of their first cycle. its ok. it doesnt make you less of a man.
Thanks bro! yes i am scared and thinking of all the options and researching and askling questions but when i do then people like mcj get pissed, SORRY! Im just scared of stuffing myself up and looking at all other options.
no man. i dont think mcj is pissed. im sure he just gets irritated with the same questions. dont feel pressurised. rather wait untill you feel right to do your cycle.
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U should become a teacher Gab.
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MCJ wrote: Yup. Not pissed just irritated. Its just that these answers have been given to u before. More than once on more than 1 Gorilla thread. Nothing wrong with being scared but if u are then ur not ready. Asking the same thing over and over isn't going to change that. You get the best advice u could get anywhere but you use it. Guys aren't gonna waste their time on the same thing over and over.
U should become a teacher Gab.
he he he. you reccon.
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