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16 Feb 2012 11:02 #93180 by GregB1
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Hi guys i am looking to start my first cycle in a couple of months but i first need to loose allot of weight. my current stats are:
weight 99
bf around 35 to 40 percent
age 23
hight 6.8f

cycle i wanna start
week 1 to 4 dianabol 40mg
week 1 to 10 test cyp 300 mg a week
brige with winnie and my pct will be nolvadex clomid and hcg

now my questions are:
is 300mg test a week enough or should i use 400 to 500mg a week on my first cycle?
and could i buy everything in stages to make it easier on the pocket like the first month buy the pct then the next month get the test and the last month buy the dbols will the stuff keep for 3 to 4 months????

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16 Feb 2012 11:11 #93182 by IronHeart
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Dont worry about a cycle now rather get your BF down to 10-12% and then you can think of taking a cycle.
Where did you get your BF checked?
Rather take the money for the cycle and get your diet sorted, what is your current diet?

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16 Feb 2012 11:17 #93183 by gab
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hi ask admin for dj's email in the contact us section. he does a very good diet to the t. he will sort you in 2 tics.

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16 Feb 2012 11:20 #93185 by GregB1
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My current diet is a ketogenic diet DJ helped me with. i want to get to around 12 to 15 percent bf before i start my cycle. i do 45 min cardio a day after weight training. My bf is just what me and and a few other guys predict it is compared to theirs i have not been for a propper bf assesment with the calipers but i will do after a few months of my diet.

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16 Feb 2012 11:43 #93188 by IronHeart
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That's not an accurate way of checking BF and dont take it after a few months take it at least every month!
But your on the right track with DJ!
A lot of guys will argue but I think 300mg will be fine I did my fist cycle of prop at about 300mg and it was amazing!
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16 Feb 2012 11:48 #93189 by GregB1
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Appreciate the reply thanks allot ;)

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16 Feb 2012 11:50 #93191 by Mfezdro
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Why don't you go for the Test Cyp 250mg by PGW. Then do 1.5ml of that each week, thats 375mg/week. More than enough for your first cycle in my opinion.

As long is the gear is not opened I believe it has a good shelf life, buy the test last as the dbols can be kept, but let one of the senior guys confirm that for you.

My comments are not advice, medical or otherwise. I am not a medical practitioner. Always consult your Doctor before making decisions.

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16 Feb 2012 11:53 #93194 by gab
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Mfezdro wrote: Why don't you go for the Test Cyp 250mg by PGW. Then do 1.5ml of that each week, thats 375mg/week. More than enough for your first cycle in my opinion.

As long is the gear is not opened I believe it has a good shelf life, buy the test last as the dbols can be kept, but let one of the senior guys confirm that for you.


if you buy pgw it will last a couple of years. new gear should be valid until 2015

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16 Feb 2012 12:20 #93202 by GregB1
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thanks allot guys i am trying to get the pgw test cyp 250 so i will take 1.5ml then thanks again for the help guys.

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16 Feb 2012 12:29 #93205 by VonD
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first get down to 10-12% bf before you cycle.
As for a first cycle do a proper 500mg test cycle.your first cycle is the best.
your bf is 35% your obese you need to stay away from steroids.
Dj would agree.

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16 Feb 2012 12:57 #93212 by GregB1
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Yea Von i am trying to get to 12 percent bodyfat before i start my cycle i am only gonna start once i have reached 12 percent body fat. i will never start now thats stupid i have a long way to go before i start. just finding out how long the anabolica can keep when sealed so that i could start buying the stuff now as i wont have enough funds to buy it all at once when i have lost all the weight.

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16 Feb 2012 12:59 #93214 by Killface
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Why not just put the money aside every month till then and get it all together?
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16 Feb 2012 13:39 #93220 by GregB1
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Perfect idea will do that rather kill thanks allot. Never thought of that :oops: .
Von you rite maybe i should do 500mg test cyp a week, do it and do it rite the first time, but for now my mind is set on loosing all these kg first.

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16 Feb 2012 13:43 - 16 Feb 2012 13:45 #93221 by Inja
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Yep, it'll all keep very well for very long. Years. The only thing to worry about it proteins like hCG or hGH. These I would get closer to using them. Also suspension compounds in liquids like EtOH will go off with time, especially if exposed to light. But they still pack some oomph.

Agree with getting your bf% down.

At a 100kg with 20% bf you are only 80kg.
Up to 100kg I am telling you now that you will put on a massive 10kg with your first cycle at doses as low as 250mg or 375kg with proper diet and training and good well dosed gear. Don't listen to young cowboys who have caught onto the more is better trends that plague the internet over the last decade.
I have personal experience on this, and have trained with guys on their first cycle.

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view
Last edit: 16 Feb 2012 13:45 by Inja. Reason: math error
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16 Feb 2012 13:58 #93222 by GregB1
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Thanks for the good sound advice bud.

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