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09 Feb 2012 11:36 #92026
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hi guys
question. is it advisable to add proviron to a test only cycle.
is it going to aid in more gains from the test.
will proviron in the cycle prevent gyno or just aid to keep it down.
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question. is it advisable to add proviron to a test only cycle.
is it going to aid in more gains from the test.
will proviron in the cycle prevent gyno or just aid to keep it down.
thx
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09 Feb 2012 12:16 #92034
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My comments are not advice, medical or otherwise. I am not a medical practitioner. Always consult your Doctor before making decisions.
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Proviron helps free up more testosterone for your body to utilise, you can read about it here,
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/drug...roids/27-mesterolone
It is a good addition to your cycle and you can even use it when bridging into PCT. Not tough on the liver, all round it helps in your stack. I use it at 40mg/day, this might be a bit light, a lot of guys use it at 60mg/day and up.
I'm not sure about anti-estrogen, it apparently helps on cycle but don't sacrifice your normal pct.
Cheers
It is a good addition to your cycle and you can even use it when bridging into PCT. Not tough on the liver, all round it helps in your stack. I use it at 40mg/day, this might be a bit light, a lot of guys use it at 60mg/day and up.
I'm not sure about anti-estrogen, it apparently helps on cycle but don't sacrifice your normal pct.
Cheers
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09 Feb 2012 12:24 #92036
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thx. i have read the article on proviron before. was interested in some of the guys opinions on this.
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09 Feb 2012 13:11 #92047
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It's difficult to say what the effect is because I've always cycled with it so not sure what its like not using it or how much benefit it has. The logic makes sense to me though, the more test available the better!
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09 Feb 2012 13:32 #92053
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was thinking the same thing though. im more interested in the gyno side of proviron
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09 Feb 2012 14:32 - 09 Feb 2012 16:01 #92066
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Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view
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I have gone on before about this misconception...
Proviron binding to SHBG and freeing up testosterone is all dog balls.
Firstly there is the fact that your testosterone levels are through the roof, so despite the greater affinity for SHBG that this compound has it still has to compete with greater concentrations of the other steroids. Of course if your on 200mg test a week and taking 40mg a day of proviron then all thats a different story, but that brings me to point 2
Secondly proviron also has a good affinity for the AR. So if your taking enough proviron to out compete at the SHBG level, your taking enough to at least compete well at the AR... Negating some of the effects of the steroids.
Lastly it binds well to aromatase but doesn't convert. Essentially all steroids that don't convert will help lower the risk of estrogenic sides, because by occupying space at the aromatase enzyme they are preventing estrogen conversion from other compounds.
Of course all this AR and aromatase binding helps to harden you up...
Proviron binding to SHBG and freeing up testosterone is all dog balls.
Firstly there is the fact that your testosterone levels are through the roof, so despite the greater affinity for SHBG that this compound has it still has to compete with greater concentrations of the other steroids. Of course if your on 200mg test a week and taking 40mg a day of proviron then all thats a different story, but that brings me to point 2
Secondly proviron also has a good affinity for the AR. So if your taking enough proviron to out compete at the SHBG level, your taking enough to at least compete well at the AR... Negating some of the effects of the steroids.
Lastly it binds well to aromatase but doesn't convert. Essentially all steroids that don't convert will help lower the risk of estrogenic sides, because by occupying space at the aromatase enzyme they are preventing estrogen conversion from other compounds.
Of course all this AR and aromatase binding helps to harden you up...
Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view
Last edit: 09 Feb 2012 16:01 by Inja. Reason: science flawes
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09 Feb 2012 14:59 #92072
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ah. thx inja.
thanks for the input
thanks for the input
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