low libido

Hi guys
I finished my cycle of eq and test cyp on the 22/08/2011. Waited 40 odd days and completed a full pct of clomid kessar and pregnyl. Everything was fine regarding libidio etc and after 12 yrs of trying my wife and I conceived our 1st child. Mustve been just after or torwards end of pct. 2 weeks ago my libido is totally gone. Don't feel for sex and even when there is an errection its weak. I have 10 kessar tabs left and was planning to pop 20mg ed to help my natural test levels. What do u think. Can u unrecover after u have recovered. Don't look like signs of hypogonadism. My doc gave me some cialis but I don't wanna mask the symptom rather than sort out the problem. For those that don't know that was my second cycle comprising of test cyp 600mg ew eq 500mg ew. Adex 0.25mged. Ill be 33 next month. Thanks

Hi Bud, firstly, congrats on hitting the target. There's no greater gift on earth than having a child.

Secondly, according to me the symptoms that you're presenting are quite normal and it takes about a month after PCT to totally stabalise my hormones.
I only go for my post cycle/PCT blood test a month after because of this.

The only way of knowing for sure what's cooking is to go for a full hormone panel. Yesterday I heard an interesting thing on the radio where a sexologist said that your penis is a barometer of health. Meaning, that there might be an underlying issue other than hormones. (Just a thought)

But no.1 is go for bloods

Sweet. Thanks Vega. Will do that. It is more than a month though since pct ended. Should I hold off on taking the kessar until bloods. What happens if my test is low. Should I run more hcg and kessar?

First go for bloods so possible causes can be eliminated

I'd pop the Kessar and Ciallis!

Yeah will do blood tests. But does kessar boost natural test levels and would there be any harm in just using the 10 I have till I can make time for the bloods

It does boost natural test levels, and yes you can use it, however wait 2 weeks after finishing them to go for bloods... Or you may get an inaccurate result.

Will do pump. Took 2 so far over two days and am starting to feel it work. Dunno if its still in my mind lol. U reckon the one card of 10 I have will be fine or should I get more

Libido recovery is a tricky thing, that's why hCG is so difficult to administer correctly, you need to know what the actual issue is, fsh, lh, etc. It may be you need a shot of hCG, maybe all you need is the nolva.. That's why Doc's procotol is so comprehensive, however I sometimes find I need to extend the Nolva another 2+ weeks after the protocol... Maybe just a low dose of Letro 0.25mg eod is all you need for recovery... End of the day its trial and error, unless you dealing with guys like the Doc who will have one look at your bloods and say, Clomid 100mg a day for 10 days, etc... I would run the Nolva longer though, maybe for 30 days... See how you feel? If you feel great and your erection is full or you don't lose and erection, or you actually just have the libido or hunger for sex then forget the bloods, if not see the right doc... I have not dealt with many doctors who actually can advise on recovery for steroid cycles, so then I'd probably get in touch with admin with your results and see if the Doc can take a look if you still not right... He is pretty much the only one who won't give you a guess at recovery... However your test levels may be perfect however you going through certain stress that you subcontiously are not handling well and that too can effect your libido.. Again, its all just a guess. Do the Nolva, see if all is good, if not chat to admin...

Another reason I would request info from the doc is that I couldn't workout what is causing me to keep getting gyno even on 2.5mg of letro a day, and admin asked the doc for me and something that I would never have thought of was a type of cancer that could be causing it... So I went to go get everything checked, and touch wood it wasn't that, just very sensative to aromatization of androgens to estrogen.. Good luck dude..

Thanks Pump. Good advise as always. There has been some stress issues due to the nature of my work. Could be a combo of both. I did do docs pct but I hear u on the trial and error. I have 1500 ius of pregnyl left and will see how the nolva goes before considering that. But like I say took two kessar already and things are already looking up hehehe. How would this affect my time off that I'm on now to my next cycle. I wouldve have had proper time off and been ready for my next cycle safely by april. Should I delay longer

No, I would just do one of those detox kits after the nolva and take essential with the nolva too, maybe include milk thistle or better yet SAMe, and you will be good to go... However I would not start another cycle until you 100 percent recovered on a hormonal level... And with the essential and SAMe you liver will be perfect for the next cycle, if you not a very big drinker or into other toxic substances.

Had I known about it I would have told you to run the hCG at two hundred fifty EOD then followed with the ten tamoxifens.

But actually with your last set of posts it doesn't seem necessary. It does point to work stress and all in the mind if you feel better after two. Lots of guys actually have a small crash after PCT and most of the time its short and not hormonal. Remember though that there is still a short period of normalisation after PCT. But a week is nothing to cry over.

When guys usually tell me they crashing after what sounds like a solid PCT, I tell them to go have sex. Watch some porn if its needed... Just get the ball rolling. A week later they back to bouncing in the sack as regular as before and it was just worry had them in a knot.

But that being said your penis is a good health indicator as was said and it is important to listen to your body.