3rd cycle dbol testcyp or winstrol only

hi mods

A follow up on the prevoius post...If I am below 12%bf and want the hard ripped look...
should I do a Winstrol only cycle at 50mg for six weeks ...instead of dbol testcyp winstrol bridge.
Read on the sight that it is not good to do a bridge as it shuts u down harder. As well as the
extra water retention from dbol and testcyp...which I dont wont.Get the hard look then do testcyp as a fourth cycle ?

thanks

In my personal opinion....if it were me,because I am also below 12% BF,I would use the cype...get bigger and then when you do go for the hard look,your going to be a mountain of rock,not just some random boulder. It also depends on how big you are? Seeing as this is your third cycle I would think that you are already a largish bloke but still,bigger is better bro. If indeed you do decide you want the ripped look,rather make that your 4th cycle?

Here's a thought, if you dont mind the regular pinning... Run test propionate with the winstrol

spike wrote: Here's a thought, if you dont mind the regular pinning... Run test propionate with the winstrol

Why do you say so spike?

Well you seem to want lean gains in a short, quick cycle with some hardening up? So instead of just winstrol on its own, throw in some test. Believe me test prop will harden you up, and you'll make lean gains with minimal water.

I just find everything better with test

I agree with spike,I've seen first hand the power of test,a mate of mine went on cype and now he is 1.8 meters tall and weighs 104 kilos,like spike said if regular pinning isn't a problem the prop will be exactly what jou want, good luck bro

thanks guys
I started at 82 kg and reached 92kg by second cycle but with 24% bf 1.70 tall just looked thicker
Dj keto diet.. now 17% 83kg and dropping but starting to look like a plank. so I was thinking of winstrol once I get below 12% as I dont necessarily want big / extra weight just more defernition....Bruce lee look would be fine.???
and dont want to have to pin every second day. Any other options ?
your opinions are appreciated.

Once you get down to below 12% the effects of a steroid cycle become much more pronounced as your muscles are more visible and not hidden underneath a layer of fat. It is therefore always better to get the most out steroid at lower BF% together with the fact that at low BF% ones estrogen levels are also lower. If you want definition I always say that your short ester compounds are best as generally they exhibit less water retention and gains are usually quick and solid.

Winstrol is a great compound for hardening but the gains on it are very negligible and the harsh effects on joints/tendons make it relatively undesirable to use on its own however many people do. If i was you I would think about combining it with test prop and possibly masteron for that hard ripped physique. Obviously this is diet and cardio dependant.

Short 8 week blitz cutting cycle:

week 1 - 8: Test Prop 100mg EOD
week 1 - 8: Masteron Prop 100mg EOD
week 4 - 8: Winstrol 50mg ED
week 9 - 11: PCT (clomid/nolva)

I'm afraid there is no escaping regular ED/EOD pinning. Most cutting cycles will have short esters that require frequent injections.

Ok looks like I will have to start sycing myself for EOD pinning.
thanks all

spike wrote: Well you seem to want lean gains in a short, quick cycle with some hardening up? So instead of just winstrol on its own, throw in some test. Believe me test prop will harden you up, and you'll make lean gains with minimal water.

I just find everything better with test

Sorry Spike let me rephrase, why would you recommend Prop over say Cyp/E in this case?

@ AAS test prop is better for for short quick and lean gains , you will have less water with test prop than with cyp/en . You can do short 6-8 week cycles with test prop , where cyp/en only starts kicking lekka by week 5

SLEON wrote: @ AAS test prop is better for for short quick and lean gains , you will have less water with test prop than with cyp/en . You can do short 6-8 week cycles with test prop , where cyp/en only starts kicking lekka by week 5

Thanks I see now. Its because of the time he wants to run it. Another benefit of prop would be that it doesn't really need a frontload I guess

No there is no need to frontload while using test prop . great for quick in and quick out cycles

Stu ...only 4 weeks winstrol ?

Hey Mike, Yes 4 weeks winny at the end of the cycle to harden your gains & dry out your muscles. Could go up to 6 weeks but no more as it is harsh on the liver.