My 2nd cycle... please help

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25 Jan 2012 15:08 #89831 by gustavdp
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Hi guys,

I did a sustanin/deca cycle last year around may. Unfortunately I did not read enough and messed it up a bit. I didn't do a proper PCT and got real bad body acne. I did a propper PCT to late but eventually it did help clear it up.

I want to start a new cycle now. I do not want anything testosterone based because of the acne and also my high aggression while on test. I spoke to a few people and read a bit and the best I can find is to do a cycle of EQ and Primabolan while on a high carb diet.

My cycle over 10 weeks consists of 10 ml 200mg EQ and 10ml 100mg prima. (1ml each a week)
My PCT consists of 6 sheets of 10 pills proviron and Pregnol (can't remember how much atm)

I don't want to make the same mistakes as last time. I would like any advice (especially on how to dose my PCT) on how to improve the cycle by adding something or dosing differently. I just can't use any testosterone based products (Mostly because of aggression not acne).

Thanks in advance

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25 Jan 2012 15:19 #89832 by IronHeart
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Hi well normally test should be the base of your cycle.
As for the equi in that cycle is far too low.
Your pct needs kessar and clomid.
And no offense but personally I feel that aggression on cycle is the users own fault because you get guys that hear from other guys that you will be aggressive on cycle and they believe that and in turn actually it's a mind over matter based aggression.

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25 Jan 2012 15:20 #89833 by Empire
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bud proviron isnt a pct.

as much as u dont want to use test,even 250mg of test a week is best as it will help u grow exteremely well, 200mg of equi isnt enough 350-525mg a week is best, i suggest u only use the brand pgw, also 100mg primobolan is also a waste,300-600mg a week is what you need to look at. because you are using long esters u have to wait 6 full weeks after your last shot in order to do your pct.your pct should contain clomid,kessar and pregnyl,no proviron, u need to run proviron through out the cycle, but be carefull if u suffer from hair loss or balding then u are going to shed hair like a cat in summer with primo and proviron.

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25 Jan 2012 15:21 #89834 by AAS
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Deca and Equi should really only be used by people with a few cycles under their belts and all steroids are
"testosterone based", that's pretty much what a anabolic steroid is (testosterone)

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25 Jan 2012 15:22 #89835 by jakes
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Dude stay away from steroids, you clearly don't know what you are doing. Read up on it - a lot, and in a years time reading up on it atleast an hour every day, then consider a cycle.

Firstly that isn't enough gear... You do not run those compounds at those sissy dosages, secondly, the time frame is too short, thirdly you don't even have a proper pct... Pregnyl (ps 5000) is not enough, you need nolva and clomid too...

Proviron won't repair test levels, its a steroid - you'll screw them up further.

I don't want to sound harsh but do your research first bud... This site has some great info on it, stick to it and read as much as you can.

Goodluck

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25 Jan 2012 15:25 #89836 by gustavdp
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I agree with that and I can control the anger. My problem is that I have tourettes (that I can control 100%). When I am on test I cannot control both the anger and my twitches. I would rather just pick up a little than walk around like a twitching monkey.

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25 Jan 2012 15:29 #89837 by gustavdp
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I hear what all of you say. The thing is that I don't want to run a big cycle and that might be my problem...

My first cycle was the stupidest thing I have ever done in my life. Maybe if i run one of the many proper cycles I have read about on the site it wouldnt have such bad side effects as my first one.

What would you guys recommend as my first cycle then? (Lower dosages of test would be fine)

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25 Jan 2012 15:49 #89838 by AAS
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gustavdp wrote: I hear what all of you say. The thing is that I don't want to run a big cycle and that might be my problem...

My first cycle was the stupidest thing I have ever done in my life. Maybe if i run one of the many proper cycles I have read about on the site it wouldnt have such bad side effects as my first one.

What would you guys recommend as my first cycle then? (Lower dosages of test would be fine)


Dbol + Test Cyp is a good option

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25 Jan 2012 16:07 #89839 by johann83
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I know for a fact that aggresion problems is all in your mind,that story that is so famously being told that steroids is too blame for agression is bullshit,most guys get an attitude problem cause they think they are as strong as gorilla and that they can moer everyone,and then the acne,that's all part of the game,you can't have best of both worlds,I can keep on typing a lot of stuff but as these guys told you,you don't know enough about gear so stay away from it,use the internet and learn the different types and what dosages and all that shit,Google is great,use it.Sorry for sounding harsh.

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