Advice for a mate

Howzit Guys,

A mate of mine told me he was planning on doing his first cycle, he said he wants to do test only and run Test E @ 300mg a week for 10 weeks. I told him that may be a bit to little. His stats im not sure but he is a short guy, low bf(probably 8-10%), decent muscle for not being a naturally big oek. ANy advise would be appreciated thanks

If his diet is good he can still expect nice gains. He should consider extending it to 12 weeks tho.

Why does he not just do a proper first cycle?

jakes wrote: If his diet is good he can still expect nice gains. He should consider extending it to 12 weeks tho.

Ya the guy eats well, not on the noise by any means but good enough imo. Why would you recommend 12 weeks over 10 jakes?

VonD wrote: Why does he not just do a proper first cycle?

Well I suggested he frontload with dbol and bridge with winnie. For some arb reason he is set on doing Test only but hey at lest he's not set pn dbol only :lol:

Hahah thats good.how about using some prop to kickstart....just a thought

VonD wrote: Hahah thats good.how about using some prop to kickstart....just a thought

Ill tell him, what do you think about the 300mg weekly dosage VonD?

Well its low usually guys opt for 600-900 on test e.but as jakes said if he his diet is good he will gain just not as much.

I used 350mg of prop per week for my first cycle. I did it for strenth gain and to keep up with the murdering training i was doing at the time. I at everything in sight... Still made plenty of gains.

Thunderbeast wrote: I used 350mg of prop per week for my first cycle. I did it for strenth gain and to keep up with the murdering training i was doing at the time. I at everything in sight... Still made plenty of gains.

How long was your cycle?Did you use anything with it?

Cycle lasted about 60 days.(3x10ml vials pgw prop)
Used anavar along for the last 33 days. I was dissapointed by the strength gain.
But on the other hand pleasantly surprised by the size gains.

The reason why i used a prop anavar cycle like this was because i was already quite
Big by the time i started the cycle. 108kg lbm. And therefore not that much interesred
The "wet" gains.

The point im trying to make is that if you use a low dose like that on your first cycle
(and still train properly with sufficient food) then you can always increase your dose to 500mg of test for your second cylce and still make plenty of gains. Therefore you wojld have done 2 cycles by the time a dose of 500mg is required. See, babysteps. I am a firm believer that quick gains result in easy losses.