leaning out

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21 Jan 2009 11:24 #8800 by marcov
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hey guys,some advise please.ive been off the good stuff for about three months and am itching to start a new coarse.im finding it soooo difficult training without a little exra help.i would like to do a lean-mass building coarse,any suggestions on stacking tren/winstrol/bold etc etc...
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21 Jan 2009 20:44 #8821 by Inja
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How long was your last cycle?
What did you use?
You might wanna wait another month or so before starting your next cycle, I like the time on = time off approach (including PCT).

Also what are your current stats?

For lean mass Test/Tren or Test/EQ are great cycles in my opinion.

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Its just my point of view

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22 Jan 2009 08:05 #8838 by marcov
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hey inja,
thanks for the response.
i was last on a bit of a huge bulking cycle,
i was on noma test combo and was eating anapolins like sweets.had some huge gains,but unfortunately all water.was on for 10 weeks and went up to 111kgs.that was in october.since then i've lost all that wonderfull mass that i killed myself to gain.i now weigh +- 100kgs.my height is 6 foot two and im 34 years old.i pretty much only have a bit of extra fat around the belly that seems as stubborn as my mother in law to get rid of.so i'd like to build, but am wary of the water retention again and dont want to gain extra fat anymore.
i was thinking of doing a test/tren/d-bol combo for 8 weeks,starting in feb.what do you think?

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22 Jan 2009 08:09 #8840 by Empire
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u worried about water retention and u are contemplating using d-bol? scrap that idea... why not run a 5 week cycle of Tren Acetate,Test Prop And Winstrol. (80mg of tren,100mg of test prop and 50mg of winstrol Every other day) should keep u nicely lean and dry with some strength gains,and if u want u can add in a lean mass oral such as anavar or t-bol for the 5 weeks, pct u would need HCG and then an anti estrogen.but 1st prize would be to follow doctari's pct protocol.

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22 Jan 2009 08:50 #8842 by marcov
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hi djeasye.
i unfortunately have ordered the whole lot already.was hoping d-bol would put on less water than anapolins.ive bought test enatate,test prop,and tren acetate + some d-bol. do you think i'll bloat as much as i did on the test comb and anapolin?i thoght of running test e and testp and d-bol for the first 3 weeks,then week 4&5: tren and test e.week 6&7 :tren and test p. week 8 test p only. week 11&12 :pct.
oh and please parden my novice ignrance,but what is t-bol.
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22 Jan 2009 15:15 #8854 by Inja
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marcov wrote:

hi djeasye.
i unfortunately have ordered the whole lot already.was hoping d-bol would put on less water than anapolins.ive bought test enatate,test prop,and tren acetate + some d-bol. do you think i'll bloat as much as i did on the test comb and anapolin?i thoght of running test e and testp and d-bol for the first 3 weeks,then week 4&5: tren and test e.week 6&7 :tren and test p. week 8 test p only. week 11&12 :pct.
oh and please parden my novice ignrance,but what is t-bol.
thanks.

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Its better to get cycle critique before buying your gear. If your worried about water get an AI.
Running the long ester Test E along with your short esters is not gonna be very helpful. Especially for 5 weeks.
Rather get some more prop and tren acetate and run a cycle simillar to wat DJ Squirrel man said.
Get HCG and kessar for PCT.
Keep the Test E and Dbol for another cycle...

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