SYNTHOL

Are u 100% sure about that? Do u know george farah is still an ifbb pro and does compete and he has one kidney from being shot. Dude u are really niaeve, the gurus are 90% the reason why pros are pros.watch your tone,stop getting angry and swearing at everything everyone says,if u don't like what is being discussed and u can speak in a civil tone leave the board.

Yes eidolon. Stupid recreation users that's like saying I must have no respect for you guys because you do not compete... See how it works?

Etwa, that's exactly what I'm going to do. I'll just be using dj's diet advice and him as a contest trainer. Louis bessinger will be designing and tweaking future cycles for me.

Thanks to all the guys from who I actually learned something (dj, 00pump, jack and a few others) all of the best in the future.

jakes wrote: Yes eidolon. Stupid recreation users that's like saying I must have no respect for you guys because you do not compete... See how it works?

Etwa, that's exactly what I'm going to do. I'll just be using dj's diet advice and him as a contest trainer. Louis bessinger will be designing and tweaking future cycles for me.

Thanks to all the guys from who I actually learned something (dj, 00pump, jack and a few others) all of the best in the future.

what does that mean? you leaving the board? what a pitty bud! all because of this? i dont get it.

jakes chill bro.. You more than welcome to do any size cycle you like, I know I did... And I made sure I didn't listen to anyone else, I would always find the 'big guys' that shared the same thought, more is better.. Always thinking the 'big guys' that used low doses lied, until I become real good friends with them and realized they actually did use low doses and where 'big'..

And you more than welcome to do what ever you want bro. I have a friend called arampies, with 21" guns and another friend with 22" the only difference is the 22" doesn't touch sythol the 21" does.. And boy oh boy can you see the difference in the look of the arm.. There is a guy at my gym as well, doesn't matter how low his bodyfat, his tricep looks like KUK.. once you fuckup with sythol, you got an issue.. I do however feel that if you need to cheat with a little in the calf or something then go do it, however, i've seen guys coming in with 'nodules' (muscles) that there is no way can be created by a movement, and it is clear as day that isn't a real muscle.

Again just chill, slow to anger and to speak, quick to listen... 1 James

Yes. I respect the recreational users, if other members can't respect me or the decisions I make there is no point in me being here.

Like eidolon pointed out.

You guys have a nice place to chat, I can't say anything about a cycle of mine then everyone gets their panties in a knot. Just like the synthol thing.

jakes wrote: Yes. I respect the recreational users, if other members can't respect me or the decisions I make there is no point in me being here.

Like eidolon pointed out.

You guys have a nice place to chat, I can't say anything about a cycle of mine then everyone gets their panties in a knot. Just like the synthol thing.

dont think thats fair bud. there is a diffirence between our opinions and getting our panties in a knot...
I think you opinions are valid but perhaps just so aggressive the guys tend to kick against it.

What a hornets nest, think I helped kick it :whistle: ! All members are entitled to their opinions, thats what a forum is about, discussing things, helping people, giving advice, getting advice and giving your opinion on subjects.

The bottom line is people here can take/use what they like, without being judged. However that doesn't mean that I (or others) don't find some things people do weird, stupid, or difficult to understand. That is not judging them nor does it say anything about the person taking the gear or Synthol whatever, it's simply my take on it.


If my comments pissed you off, sorry bro, thats still how I feel but it's not worth leaving over.

Cheers

I haven't posted one bad idea on this forum. Everything had good logic behind it and was the absolute truth. The first load of people shat themselfs because of a cycle I mentioned (1.2g test, 700mg deca, 700mg equi) I don't call that excessive nor is this uncommon on national level.

What I said about synthol was also true, I did at no stage promote its use. I merely said what is going on.

I might have lost my temper too quickly but if people can't have an open mind that's their problem. Honestly quote me where I was irresponsible ONCE.

I won't lie I have considered Synthol in my calves. I do not believe its cheating that is a difference of opinion.
00Pump wise words ending your last post.
To each his own, feel free to discuss your cycles regardless of dosages, it is your choice.
I would love to someday turn pro, time will tell, dosages that will be required who knows, im heavier and leaner than before I started with DJ who does not run me on high dosages, I am not lying about thyat I assure you, checks my Bloods before and after. I respond quite well to 750mg test and Gh in the mix. You may respond better to higher dosages.

@Jakes I completely agree with you bro and have said it from the beginning, that you have got some really good advice for someone of your age to share with the rest of the board but just remember that there might be a difference of opinion. Yes sure there are pro's out there that do do synthol but we have to take into account the pros and cons of any substance we will be putting into our body. Synthol's cons way out weigh the pros and that is why we wouldn't condone it's use here but again each to their own dude. If someone is going to do it they going to do it but that's why this board is here, so that others can learn from those who have made the mistakes and others that have been succesful.

Koe007 wrote: I won't lie I have considered Synthol in my calves. I do not believe its cheating that is a difference of opinion.

If you're a pro, or aspiring to be one, I don't think anything can be considered cheating. I was referring to what my reaction would be if my buddy suddenly started doing site injections to grow bigger calves than me.

Nobody here is naive enough to believe that it's not widely used in the pro ranks.

Then please explain to me why I lost 3karma for suggesting that cycle (which I told the guy to change to only 900mg straight test after he shared his cycle history) and another 3 for just giving my opinion on synthol (not even suggesting that someone uses it). I do not call that objective thinking.

There is a difference between a man that barely has a decent foundation who wants to take 2g of gear and someone who has experience.
Same with synthol, if you are a top level bodybuilder I see nothing wrong with making your delths 1cm or so bigger while still having the natural look.

jakes I doubt your loss of karma was due to your opinion, but rather due to your fanny wobble. I might be wrong though.

Eidolon wrote: jakes I doubt your loss of karma was due to your opinion, but rather due to your fanny wobble. I might be wrong though.

Yes you are wrong. I went off after I lost the karma, not because of the karma but because of the principal of the matter.

Chill bro. At least you don't have negative karma like some other dudes have had here :lol: It really isn't a reason to leave, and after my initial disagreement with your infinite cycle theory, I've enjoyed reading most of your posts here, as have many others.

I'm sure the karma will be back in no time.

Yeah poor MR. SA LMAO

Its not about the karma. I couldn't care less. I strongly dislike people who force their beliefs down on others as well as trying to tell them how to live. We are all adults here and it does not work like that.

My family does not approve of my lifestyle, nor do most other people except a few friends. This is supposed to be a platform where we can openly discuss steroid use (in a safe manner) which cannot be done here because recreational users take offense. I do not force anyone to inject anything. This is why a lot of the knowladge you guys could have gotten from provincial level bodybuilders or whatever is lost - they simply cannot share their knowledge without being flammed because of the pre-set ideas other members already have.

I personally believe to each his own.if someone makes a statement comment on the statement and do not attach any personal feelings to it.stay on point.guys that want to be pros and compete will do things a bit different than the regular gymrat.this leads to people almost flipping when they see the type of cycles guys want to do.if you disagree with something thats your opinion dont go and try to convince a guy your way is right.jakes is a clued up guy and some do not share his views but he is part of the forum so lets just share knowledge and help each other out.

If someone does not agree with something I say they are more than welcome to ask. I will gladly explain why I am doing it.

I'm not going to tell people what they want to hear just to be popular. I tell it like it is.

just cos I am a regular member I may as well tune in. "everyone is entitled to my opinion" got that on a shirt, trust.

Don't go jakes, I enjoy your internet company and outlandish opinions. nohomo.

jakes wrote: If someone does not agree with something I say they are more than welcome to ask. I will gladly explain why I am doing it.

I'm not going to tell people what they want to hear just to be popular. I tell it like it is.

Dude, that's cool, and pretty much how most of us roll. But your outburst and early afternoon rant was a bit over the top: calling people names, swearing, etc. I didn't follow the whole drama, but it seemed your karma was only affected after your rant, so I'm still not sure people objected to your support of synthol use, but rahter the way you went off.

You say you don't care about karma points, but also say that's what set you off, which is a bit confusing.

The principal of the matter is why I went off - people that shoot you down for no valid reason. I only talked the truth. Ill be sticking to the forum just in the hope of learning something. Just won't actively be posting anymore.

Jake's mail admin who can put you on to me. And don't assume you
you know whos on here or not. This is all off topic, closing thread