Arimidex or letro??

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06 Jan 2012 10:00 #86974 by PoisonedPulse
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Howzit guys... Ok so I worked out finances for the equi power house and goodness! After december I don't have those fincances, anyway hav decided to do the beginners bulking cycle as its cheap and I can afford it now, I swapped the cyp out for pgw test en 300mg, and jus gonna run the course as in the sample cycle section and bridge with winny and proviron from last jab to pct, the 30 days, anyway now to my question, which AI would be better to keep on hand during cycle, the arimidex or letro, I'm not prone to gyno but I still wanna have on hand , can never go wrong with being safe. So what would your opinion be? The letro is a lot cheaper, would it be good enough and to run maybe 0.25mg-0.5mg on days I pin? (Twice a week)

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06 Jan 2012 10:30 #86985 by admin
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Letrozole is cheaper and very effective, so go for it. Only use it when necessary. 0.2mg (two drops) everyday is enough to help keep estrogen under control, but it's not high enough to cause side-effects. It will last you a long time and for the price it's a good deal.

Personally I always prefer Arimidex over Letrozole. It seems that Arimidex is a little quicker to start suppressing estrogen aromatazation, but I have no scientific proof of this claim, it's just something I've noticed myself.
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06 Jan 2012 10:48 #86986 by PoisonedPulse
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Sweet thanx so much bud:) wasn't entirely sure on how to run it, but ill stick to the 2 drops ed :) mix it with a bit of water?

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06 Jan 2012 10:54 #86987 by jakes
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I prefer adex, letro has a big impact on strength. Its up to you... If possible get adex.

Ps, you can always up the test dose to 900mg-1.2g bud. Still is dirt cheap and gains should be good.

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06 Jan 2012 11:03 #86988 by PoisonedPulse
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Well its not actually that much more, I'm sure I can make a plan, and iv heard a lot of good about it on the forums and research, now drops wise? I think I read on a thread it was like 5 or 6 drops for 0.25mg? I could be mistaken... How would u suggest I run It on course bud

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06 Jan 2012 11:25 #86989 by jakes
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Lol its like 2.3 times the price bro. Sorry I can't remember, I think when I did the course I did 8drops eod... Ill check for you. What test dose are you planning on running?

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06 Jan 2012 11:33 #86990 by jakes
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I took 8 drops which was 0.32mg every second day. So yes, 6 drops will be 0.24mg :)

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06 Jan 2012 11:52 #86991 by PoisonedPulse
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Shot chief! Well I'm gonna take ur advice, run 900mg, the extra test is cheap bru, so gonna do 1.5ml twice a week, monday and thursday, then front load with 40mg dbol for the first 4 weeks, run the course of test E 10 weeks, while my 30 days wait for pct gonna bridge with winny at 50mg, and proviron 60mg, then start pct no.2 , hcg , clomid and nolva.. Ill add the adex in at 0.24 (6 drops) eod on cycle... Iv never used adex or letro, so jus wanna make sure before I jus do random shit to myself... How does that all sound?? Got a good diet sorted, I'm training with a mate who competes, and he is helping me with the eating ect, so looking for some decent results... I'm open to ur opinion on anything?

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06 Jan 2012 11:55 #86992 by VonD
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Look good bro.all bases covered.goodluck

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06 Jan 2012 12:13 #86995 by jakes
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Yeah you can't go wrong with that. Ps proviron is a really weak steroid, you can cut costs further by taking that out. Just the winni will do fine and results will basically be exactly the same.

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06 Jan 2012 12:23 #86997 by PoisonedPulse
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Shot for the help guys! :) ill be starting month end, will let u know how it goes!

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06 Jan 2012 13:58 #87021 by crawler
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That sounds good, when do you start?

let us know how it goes.

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06 Jan 2012 14:22 #87027 by ABC01
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PoisonedPulse wrote: Shot chief! Well I'm gonna take ur advice, run 900mg, the extra test is cheap bru, so gonna do 1.5ml twice a week, monday and thursday, then front load with 40mg dbol for the first 4 weeks, run the course of test E 10 weeks, while my 30 days wait for pct gonna bridge with winny at 50mg, and proviron 60mg, then start pct no.2 , hcg , clomid and nolva.. Ill add the adex in at 0.24 (6 drops) eod on cycle... Iv never used adex or letro, so jus wanna make sure before I jus do random shit to myself... How does that all sound?? Got a good diet sorted, I'm training with a mate who competes, and he is helping me with the eating ect, so looking for some decent results... I'm open to ur opinion on anything?


I have question relating to this. Also starting my cycle in next 2 weeks. Also running adex throughout cycle (16 weeks). My question: Is running the adex everyday @ 0.24 (6 drops) overkill if the objective is both combatting water retention and gyno prevention. Or, would 0.24 eod be more than sufficient?

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06 Jan 2012 14:52 #87029 by PoisonedPulse
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Well to be honest mine is just really a test course, besides the bridge winny, I'm not too prone to any gyno effects but I think by boosting the test to 900mg pw , ill rather be safe and run the adex every other day, at 0.24, I believe that will be sufficent, jakes might of run a heavy course with various compunds and thus needed the adex everyday, I'm not sure but that's my take on it, what course are u gonna be running? Another way I look at it, is iv never run adex on cycle, and iv never had a problem, so I'm sure small doses eod will be perfect and safe , good luck

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06 Jan 2012 15:03 #87031 by ABC01
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Im running a really basic 16 week cycle of supertest (640mg/week) frontloaded with T bol at 60mg/day for 1st 5 weeks and ending it with winni at 50mg/day for 7 weeks. Proviron at 40mg/day entire cycle. Since my main goal is to drop bf from 12.5 to 6% the main idea for the adex for me is zero water retention. My diet is spot on (DJ doing it for me). Im not interested at all running high test dosages. Since adex have a impact on estrogen it does take a tole on your body (even if its less than letro) so if i can run it at 0.24 eod rather than ed i would be happy

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06 Jan 2012 15:11 #87032 by PoisonedPulse
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Sounds good bud! I'm sure some1 will comment soon to see if that's safe for us:) in all I hav read on a few threats, and even the sample cycles,and that seems to be about the average dosages. The advanced lean mass cycle with supertest and equi is run with adex at 0.2mg ed , but I'm sure it will be sufficient to keep unwanted water and estrogen at bay. Good luck! In a few weeks ill try post back here to give progress, interested to see urs too as ull run supertest and myself test En..

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06 Jan 2012 15:14 #87033 by ABC01
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All the best bud!

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06 Jan 2012 16:46 #87042 by jakes
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ABC01 wrote: Im running a really basic 16 week cycle of supertest (640mg/week) frontloaded with T bol at 60mg/day for 1st 5 weeks and ending it with winni at 50mg/day for 7 weeks. Proviron at 40mg/day entire cycle. Since my main goal is to drop bf from 12.5 to 6% the main idea for the adex for me is zero water retention. My diet is spot on (DJ doing it for me). Im not interested at all running high test dosages. Since adex have a impact on estrogen it does take a tole on your body (even if its less than letro) so if i can run it at 0.24 eod rather than ed i would be happy


6drops eod will be fine bro. At 500mg an AI isn't even needed sometimes. It depends on the person. Some people develop bitch tits by only looking at the vial of test.

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06 Jan 2012 22:46 #87085 by Eidolon
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jakes wrote: Ps proviron is a really weak steroid, you can cut costs further by taking that out.


I notice you mention this quite often, Jakes. Proviron on its own isn't very effective, but most sources suggest it as an adjunct to almost every cycle to free up other steroids in the stack.

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06 Jan 2012 23:51 #87091 by Inja
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Eidolon wrote:

jakes wrote: Ps proviron is a really weak steroid, you can cut costs further by taking that out.


I notice you mention this quite often, Jakes. Proviron on its own isn't very effective, but most sources suggest it as an adjunct to almost every cycle to free up other steroids in the stack.


From an earlier post I made a long time ago...

SHBG binding compounds (eg: Winstrol, Proviron)
Many believe that it is SHBG that contributes to plateau of gains due to excessive binding of steroid compounds. Since steroids are hydrophobic they do not travel well in blood and are often bound to other proteins. Only once freed do they become active. Thus the idea is that their sequestration of these compounds prevents their ability to bind their target receptor. Stanozolol and proviron are purported to bind the SHBG molecule and free up testosterone for receptor binding. Its true that DHT and probably its derived compounds do bind the SHBG molecule with higher affinity, but one must also not that 17-alpha alkylated steroids have a lower affinity for SHBG than testosterone.
Although SHBG binds 90%-100% of circulating testosterone the inclusion of high dose exogenous testosterone and other androgenic steroids actually down-regulates SHBG expression dramatically, so less testosterone is actually bound by SHBG on cycle than is normal bound anyways. So even if these compounds do free testosterone from SHBG their effect is radically minimised by the low levels of SHBG present at the end of a cycle. While high levels of testosterone lower SHBG high levels of estrogen increase it. So lowering estrogen on cycle for instance with an AI may also lower SHBG and less bound AAS.


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07 Jan 2012 10:54 #87107 by ABC01
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Nice to see Inja back!

So would you say i wasted money getting enough proviron to run throughout 16 week cycle up until PCT?

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07 Jan 2012 11:02 #87108 by 00pump
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I won't run a cycle without proviron. It gets me hard "all over".

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07 Jan 2012 11:29 #87109 by Inja
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Its a strong androgen, and throws the test/DHT balance to the right, so yeah helps with that ;) Not a waste of money depending on your goals

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07 Jan 2012 11:58 #87110 by jakes
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Eidolon wrote:

jakes wrote: Ps proviron is a really weak steroid, you can cut costs further by taking that out.


I notice you mention this quite often, Jakes. Proviron on its own isn't very effective, but most sources suggest it as an adjunct to almost every cycle to free up other steroids in the stack.


I'm sticking to what I said. I have used the stuff and honestly it did basically nothing. Dosages under 60mg ed are a waste. Masterone would be a better addition to the cycle than the proviron...

Anyway for the price you pay to run it at 60mg for a month you can just as well buy another vial of test and bump up your test dose. Or add masterone at 300mg.

Some people like 00pump like the drug, I'm nor one of them.

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07 Jan 2012 12:24 #87111 by 00pump
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Jakes meet Inja (aka the dog)

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