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06 Jan 2012 08:03 #86961 by AJAY
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Hi Guys :)

for those that have followed my topics u can relate . . . but will put stats down quick.

42yrs . . . 1.78m tall BF around 10% 86kg's . . been training for 4yrs . . under NEW personal trainer pst 10months who basically gave me body transformation dropping 9kg in 14 weeks and dropping BF by 10% . .. currently been on winnie (inj - almost finished) as been shredding . . . prior to that did a course of supertest & deca . . . gained 7.2kg in 10 weeks . . lost only 2kgs. BF went from 9.2% to 9.8%

i am 43 in March & considering entering compo (over 40's / classic) for the 1st time! around june / july onwards i guess (see what trainer says) - so i would like to know what course i should go on now to gain a bit of size!!! any advice would be greatly appreciated. i do follow a specific meal plan designed by my trainer. i train 4 days a week . . . split programe (HIT training) and its working for me!!!!

i was thinking frontload with dbol then test, sust & proviron . . . what u think???

much appreciated!!! train insane or remain the same!!!
cheers & thnx B)

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06 Jan 2012 08:12 #86962 by jakes
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When is the comp you want to enter? I'd run a 10week npp, test prop and anavar cycle

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06 Jan 2012 08:14 #86963 by Empire
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look to be honest,doing a contest prep cycle is not as easy as u may think, u need to drop long esters 8 weeks out,so if u are using sust or deca/equipoise they stop 8 weeks out from a show, then u will move on to shorter ester things like test prop,masteron prop,tren acetate,anavar,winstrol,proviron, and then fat burners clenbuterol and yohimbine and use an aromatise inhibitor. your last 2-3 weeks are vital in getting rid of any estrogen or water so it isnt as easy as one thinks. dependant on budget gh is also a good option to throw in.

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06 Jan 2012 08:19 #86964 by AJAY
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Thnx Jakes & DJ

i was gonna enter HIS compo which is normally aug but have since heard that if may be end of Sept . . BUT SA Champs is in early sept so i wanna enter 1 or 2 compo's before then to get some kinda experience with the posing, stage etc etc so i will have to confirm with him exactly which compo & when then work backwards from there i guess.

i know its not easy but i do believe i am in excellent hands (trainer is national & international BB)

shot guys!!!

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06 Jan 2012 08:21 #86965 by Empire
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is he an ssn athlete or a supplement sa athlete? then stick with what your coach says bud, dont fiddle around,listen to 1 person and 1 person only!
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06 Jan 2012 08:27 #86966 by AJAY
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not sure to be honest . . .he hasnt competed for a while!!!

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06 Jan 2012 12:16 #86996 by AJAY
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hey guys

how about the following

10 week course of a combo of nomaviron and equip at 1ml per week?
what u think?

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06 Jan 2012 12:33 #86999 by jakes
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350 or what ever mg of equi weekly is far too little, 10weeks is also too short to run it. 10weeks of test with 2 or 3mls npp will yield much better results.

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06 Jan 2012 12:42 #87001 by AJAY
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Hey Jakes

cool . . thnx!!! does nomaviron inj hurt? i have heard it does . . . altho they said winnie wuld & i felt NOTHING!! haha

nnp = ?? sorry to ask . . . test 1ml per week?

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06 Jan 2012 12:56 #87006 by Empire
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i wouldnt use any nomad products at all.
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06 Jan 2012 13:12 #87012 by jakes
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Npp is short version deca, kicks in much faster. Pgw will be better - quality product with no injection pain. 2ml test e with 2ml npp weekly will be good. I would rather do 3mls of test with 3ml npp but its up to you. What ever you feel comfortable with.

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06 Jan 2012 13:16 #87013 by AJAY
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prior to winnie . .

i was on 2ml test (supertest) and 1ml deca.350 per week and both PGW . . . .

picked up 7.2kg in 10 weeks . . only last 2kg since on winnie . . .

when u say 2ml of each per week is that split like mon/thurs or 2ml's each once a week?
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06 Jan 2012 13:25 #87015 by jakes
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Normally one uses test twice a week, the npp needs to be pinned eod but you'll get away with pinning it every third day bro. You'll gain some nice mass

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06 Jan 2012 13:28 #87016 by AJAY
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yeah test i did twice a week . . .

wow!!! thats a lota pinning!! haha will look & feel like a PIN cushion!! hahaha

i do want a bit of size . . but also wanna put it on gradually and not like POW so that people strt away think u on roids . . .

thnx ;)

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06 Jan 2012 13:33 #87017 by jakes
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Lol, "pow" doesn't exist if you have done 5 cycles. First cycle maybe...

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