Some advice please

I came across your forum, and would appreciate it if someone knowledgeable could guide me in the right direction regarding the use of anabolic steroids.

I have been pushing weights (on and off) for about 9 years, training very hard for about 10 months in a year with two one month breaks here and there. I have been fortunate enough to be able to build good quality muscle over the years, but it came at a price as I picked up quite a bit of body fat. I have tried numerous diets and the useless fat burner supplements (which only produces very expensive piss and heart palpitations), and good workout programs with adequate cardio.

I am 25 years old, 1.72m, 105kg. To give you an idea on what level I am : I bench 135kg (max rep), bicep curl 28kg dumbbells (8reps), Dumbbell incline press 50kg dumbbells (6 reps). Most other excercises I do lighter, with more reps. Also, due to problems with my feet and shins I do leg excercises with light weights (Squat about 100kg for 15 reps).

I am contemplating using the Anavar / Proviron cycle on your site, or alternatively a Winstrol cycle?

My main goal is shedding the excess weight and getting more muscle definition.

Could someone please advise on what cycle is preferable for me (I have never used anabolics before), and also if there is any other factors I should be aware of (i.e. side effects, specific dosages, eating plans or training regimens going along with the substance).

Your help is sincerely appreciated!

First off what does your diet look like and cardio?

Diet+cardio
Why not go with a clen + heat cycle.

My diet, when cutting (or trying to), was :

pre-workout drink before gym in the morning
Whey protein shake after gym
Mid-morning snack (nuts, dried fruit or a yoghurt)
Lunch (A meat, mostly chicken or fish, and steamed veggies)
Mid-afternoon snack (Fruit)
Evenings I had a whey / casein protein shake.

Cardio was basically 30-40 min sessions on the treadmill or stationary bike 3x a week, with interval training 1x a week (10-15 1 min sets) and sprints 1x weekly.

Oh yeah, that was week days. Weekends was cheat days, but I still tried to keep it tame (I only buy grilled chicken take aways, and try not to over eat). I also drink alcohol on occasion, but try to limit it to whiskey / brandy and water.

Can you elaborate on Heat? What precisely is it? I know about Clenbutorol.

Heat is an eca.ephidrine/caffiene/asprin.your diet is not right.
Go with 6 meals
Your are not eating enough for your size
more whole foods.
Add some dextrose post workout.
Get some complex carbs in the morning

Ok your diet is your down fall, u should read up on the dieting and contest prep section, dieting 101,dieting 102 and creating your own diet. Your diet is holding u back and that's why u have had 0 results in the past.

Well if you can correct your diet I would definately recommend anavar and proviron. Koe007 says that anavar eats fat like a machine and after his results I believe him completely. I would recommend liquid pharmaceuticals anavar and proviron. Their quality is superb

Well if you can correct your diet I would definately recommend anavar and proviron. Koe007 says that anavar eats fat like a machine and after his results I believe him completely. I would recommend liquid pharmaceuticals anavar and proviron. Their quality is superb

Dobby8233,u are right it does do that,but he should get his diet right and train properly with cardio for 12 weeks and then consider the anavar and other fat burners,no point in taking fat burners and anabolics just yet untill he gets the right results from diet first..

I agree with you DJ but he did ask about anavar or winstrol 12 weeks on a good diet will work wonders. Anavar coupled with a good diet is like fishing with dynamite.... Absolute slaughter

dobby8233 wrote: I agree with you DJ but he did ask about anavar or winstrol 12 weeks on a good diet will work wonders. Anavar coupled with a good diet is like fishing with dynamite.... Absolute slaughter

he is asking about anavar but he is not seeing that his diet is the actual issue here. Whats going to happen once he is off the anavar again? with a poor diet he is going to go back to his current shape.

bench, i agree with DJ, your diet is the issue. not enough protein and quality carbs and fats. do the reading and construct your own diet. if thats too much, contact DJ trough Admin and have him create a personalized diet for you (he does charge though)

Thanks a lot for the comments! I appreciate it.

Will have a look at the dieting section - I always thought that cutting merely boiled down to restricting carbs and calories and adding cardio.

I'll maybe see how it goes on a new diet for a month or so and then look into the Anavar stack.

Does the cardio programme look right though?

Thanks once again!

cardio seems fine to me.

Bud,I wouldn't go just one month,u will be surprised the results u get in 3 months of dieting. Your cardio might not be to blame but maybe your weight training,list your exercies and how many sets u do for each and we can look at that.

Bud first off u need to get a digital scale. guestimation of values is not gonna happen, its like saying 1 banana has 15g of carbs in it,but is it a 100g banana or is it a 300g banana, the values will differ greatly! so the first thing u need to buy is a digital scale.

pre-workout drink before gym in the morning ( this should be a solid meal ie oats and egg whites.)
Whey protein shake after gym( this is fine,but how many grams of whey?)
1 hour post work out (solid meal containing protein and carbs)
Mid-morning snack (nuts, dried fruit or a yoghurt) (this should contain protein here)
Lunch (A meat, mostly chicken or fish, and steamed veggies)
Mid-afternoon snack (Fruit) ( this should contain a protein,and some healthy fats)
dinner (do u not eat dinner? have some steak here)
Evenings I had a whey / casein protein shake ( this is fine,add some healthy fats.)

@DJ, Admin has forwarded my mail to you regarding an eating plan. I'll send you through some of the training programmes I've used as attachments then, too much to type in here. Thanks again!