Is it too late!?

Hi guys im new to the site and just wanted to ask some advice.

Im turning 17 in a few months and believe it or not i have done 2 cycles in the past year.
i ran dbols(blue hearts) for 8 weeks and i gained 8kgs of which i kept 6. pct was clomid and nolvadex.

then i ran superdrol for 3 weeks and i gained 5kgs while dropping 3% bodyfat.it was stacked with clenbuterol.

i currently weigh 82kgs @ 14% bodyfat.

i really didnt join this to be scolded out i am sorry i started juicing so young but i had a really low self esteem and i just want to ask you guys with experience what is this going to mean for my life? will i die younger?? will i still be able to get kids??

Please help and know that i actually did do research on roids and bodybuilding and i research every single day-SERIOUSLY
i did read that you shouldnt start under 21 but i just didnt give a fuck.

Oral only cycles... Ai. You could have achieved it without gear.

I will avoid scolding you as I see you know starting too early was a mistake.
Although many guys get involved in BB due to low self esteem it is not good to fill avoid in your life with a substance. Body Building is about passion, discipline, taking your body the distance by applying effective training and diet regimes then adding supplementation to assist a little.
If your PCT was effective you should recover fine and not shut your natural test axis down to much.
My advice don't worry about what people think of you, time changes everything and consistency and discipline will pay off in the end. By 25 you will not remember most of the people from your school or care what they thought of you.
Firstly sort your diet out, Jay Cutler said when he started the first thing he did was get a good diet from an experienced trainer. Get hold of DJ use the money you were gonna spend on juice on getting a suitable diet to your body and budget.

FYI stop the juice until you are old enough first. Search some of 00Pump's posts he has some solid experience

thanx man! yeah i will never ever run a cycle without pct...my friend is 17 as well and he is currently 87kg+...he ran test e 12 weeks:

1-12:test e 750mg EW
1-4:anadrol 100mg ED
4-8:tren ace (dont know the dosage but was a ml every shot)
8-12:prop 100mg ED, 50mg winstrol ED, 100mg anavar ED, 1ml masteron ED
1-12: 5 drops leterozole ED

PCT was:
ovidrel,clomid,arimidex

he is fucking huuuuge for his age but everyone knows he is a roidhead. lol

he is currently on NPP prop dostinex test-e 1g a week.

do you guys think his going to die young?

@koe: what post of 00pump should i search for? what keywords

Benboy wrote: thanx man! yeah i will never ever run a cycle without pct...my friend is 17 as well and he is currently 87kg+...he ran test e 12 weeks:

1-12:test e 750mg EW
1-4:anadrol 100mg ED
4-8:tren ace (dont know the dosage but was a ml every shot)
8-12:prop 100mg ED, 50mg winstrol ED, 100mg anavar ED, 1ml masteron ED
1-12: 5 drops leterozole ED

PCT was:
ovidrel,clomid,arimidex

he is fucking huuuuge for his age but everyone knows he is a roidhead. lol

he is currently on NPP prop dostinex test-e 1g a week.

do you guys think his going to die young?

@koe: what post of 00pump should i search for? what keywords

Kids today... I hope his supplier dies

Where do you kids get the money to run all that shit? Its not healthy and dosages are high...

lol haha but seriously do you think his going to fuck himself??

Yes. And 87 isn't even big...

Jakes started it. It was tiyled " for the guys who did it"

he deals and he has a job that pays 13r a hour and his parents buy all his supps so he sortshimself out...haha

You kids are screwing up your health. I was almost 90kg LEAN at 18 before starting steroids... You do not need it at your age. I'd like to know what punk ass idiot sells to minors... Illegal or not that's just screwed up.

yeah i think its fuktup too. but dude i want to be a pro one day and i really like being on steroids? do you think i should still wait or do a good test e only cycle? my diet is good bro. ek rook nie, drink nie en ek is consistent met my diet ek bly by dieselfde kos elke dag ek wil rerig 'n suksesvolle BB wees? wat stel jy voor doen ek?

You won't even see 30 before burning out, never mind pro bud... You shouldn't even be juicing, if you do, 500mg test c or 600mg test e max... 3months on 3 months off. Leave the orals, tren, deca etc

Starting roids on such young age will leave you dependant on it imo, because you do not know what hard work is due to the quick results of roids. Get yourself a proper diet (post yours here as well so we can check it out) Compete next year under 18 as well as the year after that. If you place good the following 2 years then you can consider to use some gear if diet and training is correct, because most under 21's use. Maar as ek nou vir jou kan raad gee, los uit daai goed vir nou.

U need to get your nutrition right,u will grow with out steroids if that is correct,17 is way to young bud,long term effect are gonna catch up inluding stunting your growth,as for you mate he needs to be kicked in the head 1g of test at his age and selling to schol kids,i hope he gets into big shit.

Guys we are all breaking the rules of this website if we give this young gentleman any advice on steroids,he is 16 years old and we have a no under 18 policy in the rules.

Benboy please don't take it the wrong way,we can give u advice on training and nutrition but it is not in any of our best interests to give u advice on steroids other than DO NOT USE them. This is for your health and safety, using steroids at your young age can lead to a lot of long term undesired effects including stunted growth.

okay then its fine guys i wont ask advice on roids until im 18 but anyway this is what my diet looks like:

oats with wheatgerm and digestive bran
raw honey
fat free milk
6 egg whites (boiled)

@school from 8-2:
moerse bowl brown rice(organic)
500g free range chicken breast
2 tbsp olive oil.
[i eat of this every 2 hours]
also 4 bananas through the day or other fruit.

pre workout:
5g arginine, 5g glutamine, 30g whey(weighed on scale)
i know that the aminos glutamine and arginine compete for the same receptor but this really pumps me up and makes my look full so please advise on this.

post workout:
4 slices white bread with raw honey or jam.
a cup or two white rice
60g whey and 10g glutamine

then i snack on these wheat snack thing you get from fruit & veg its got like 6g carbs and is the size of a pita...i eat 3-4 of these with a shitload raw peanut butter before supper.

supper is usually meat(my parents help me alot because they know its what i want to do) with salad and olive oil or flaxseed oil.

before bed:
almonds/avo with 60g casein in 400ml full fat milk

I have spoken to pump about this being an issue for the forum as benboy is under the age of 18,its a stict rule for this forum so I and pump have come to the conclusion that we have to ban benboy,it is just too dangerous for anyone handing out information to minors on this subject,even nutrition and supplementation device as schools are now testing for high creatine levels from taking it in as a dietary supplement.we do not want any legal implications towards this forum for handing out any information that may cause this kid harm,espically if he gets expelled from school if tested for any supplements/steroids.

If anyone has an issue with my decision as a moderator please feel free to take it up with admin.as it is he has said that he wasn't going to ask questions about steroids yet asks about length of cycle determines ester lengths...I don't want any bad to come to this forum,or admin if some issues arise and he says that the information came from this board.

According to the rules you guys had the right to ban him its just sad because that kid is going to continue doing things the wrong way now.

He can browse as a guest but i dont think anyone wants to be the one to give out information that poses the risk of hurting this kid,do u?

I'd rather give him the correct information before he runs 1g test with tren and who knows what els like his friend. Its not right but at least it would have been safer than the shit he is probably going to do now.

Well rules are rules,i just dont wanna be the one who can hand out potentially dangerous information.he should go to www.teenbodybuilding.com

Agree with DJ here, its not like he can't browse as a guest. It shouldn't take him too long to see a few previous threads on what not to do and how to do stuff so he can find the info he wants if he looks hard enough. Everyone wins, he gets his info and noone here gets sued.