Beginner's Cycle - Acne

Howzit guys

I'm keen to do my first cycle some time in the next 2 months and I've got my eyes on the beginner's bulking cycle thats posted in the sample cycle section here. I understand side effects are a part of steroid use but the one I have a problem with is acne. Last year I went on medication that caused me to break out as a side effect. My back, shoulders and neck cleared up after discontinuing the meds but now theres a large part on my neck/jawline that I'm still trying to clear up a year later with Tetralysal, Benzac and Dr Hugh Dermo Blue.

Should I wait until my skin has cleared up completely before going on a cycle?

When I do go on a cycle, is there something I can use to prevent acne outbreaks or should I just continue using the Tetralysal and Benzac thoughtout the cycle?

Thanks

The acne will defiantly get worse if you use steroids period. All you can do is keep pores clean... You can however leave out test - which should help. This isn't the typical first cycle but it'll defiantly not affect your skin as much. It depends on finances, if I was you I'd do a 16 week cycle with just equi at 700mg weekly with maybe 150mg test enanthant. Don't frontload it and start test from week 3. Run just the equi for the first 2 weeks. If you don't want to do this you can try primobolan at 600mg weekly, but that shit is expensive.

Good luck

jakes, he is a firstr time user, he wont need 700mg of equipoise at all,u tell everyone to use massive doses of equipoise,its not needed and most guys if their diet is right will get excellent results on 350mg alone..i understand u arent afraid of big cycles but most guys are,so even running 300mg of test to most people is alot,dont be so quick to throw out advice like that bud. i remember my 2nd cycle of 200mg of deca and 250mg of sust gave me a 10kg increase in lean body mass over 10 weeks. a first time user needs no where near 800mg -1000mg of gear a week.


500mg of test whilst using tetralysil will be fine,usually keeps acne at bay

Does it really matter? Bud, on 700mg equi a week sides will be minimal. I don't think he would even need an AI during cycle, he won't burn out his receptors either. He can run that same cycle 3 times if he wants to and still get gains. I don't see why he has to lower the dosages. 700mg isn't kamakazi style or harmful to the body. I like the dose, that's why I recommend it. Its his first so he might as well do it properly.

If you say 500mg test and the acne stuff will keep acne at bay he. Can try it.

I know you and andrew use a minimal amount of juice, and I respect that. To each his own.

The reason we use test as a first cycle is because your body is used to testosterone,your body doesn't produce boldenone it does produce testosterone, 700mg can produce side effects,anxiety is one of them, 350mg- 500mg is more than enough for a first time user,equi still can prodcue side effects,

Valid point, like in the case of jackrabbit. It isn't the case with everyone tho. I follow the "use as much as you possibly can while being able to do it safely" approach. There are a lot of variables. 500mg test would probably be the safer option but then again I've heard of people that get extreme side effects even of that. Its the risk you take when you put hormones in the body that aren't supposed to be there

I am really not getting much pimples, from my cycle which is just test @500mg a week, i do get one or two more like big pimples on my back but its nothing hectic with a couple more on my shoulders and chest, so i dont think you should stress to much bud.

I am also starting my first cycle soon.. have my stuff and was supposed to start but felt "in the wrong space" so postponed for now.. I naturally get very bad backne so am also interested in this.. Any more advice on this would be great..

Some people break out some don't. If you got acne during puberty there is a good chance you will get on cycle.. Maybe start off on 300mg test you can always bump it up but on a custom diet you might not need to.

700mg EQ causes severe anxiety in me, but jacks advice splitting it into 2 shots a week does help.

I split mine in two shots too, was using test e at the time so was pinning 1.5ml of that with 1ml equi twice weekly. I had a nice experience... Good strength, gains were nice...

All my friends who had acne (or at least most of them) who used testosterone got ance on cycle... Its logic that someone who got acne when they hit puberty (high levels of testosterone) will experience the same when he does a cycle... I think the general rule here is to stay use the milder anabolics

Thanks for the replies guys.

I think I'll wait until my skin has just about cleared up completely before I start the cycle. At least then I'll just be doing my best to prevent acne rather than adding to it. Tetralysal and Benzac does a pretty damn good job of preventing breakouts.

Hmmm now I'm curious about this equi stuff. Would you say that 500mg of equi weekly is equal to that of 500mg test but with less of the sides? Has anyone experienced anxiety on less than 700mg?

500mg test is more than 500mg equi. Its a more mild drug...

cheese,let me put it this way,this is your first cycle,the gains on test alone are amazing for a first cycle, your body is used to producing testosterone as u are a male,so by injecting testosterone is a good idea as your body knows how to handle it. boldnenone like most steroids are testosterone derivatives so its a modified testosterone molecule,so i would suggest sticking to just testosterone for your first cycle.

If one looks at it that way you should never pin something like equi then... Because that will stay the same irrelevant whether its your first or 6th cycle. If we were talking about one of the 19nors I would agree because they shut your natural test production down so hard. Equi does not shut you down hard at all... I would say he can go for it

ya but what DJ is saying is regardless of whether equi is harmful or not its just better to start off with a base compound like test for your first cycle.. Its the bread and butter of all cycles after all..

not true jakes, u add in additonal compounds in later when u are more advanced, and equi doesnt shut u down as hard as deca but it still shuts u down.hence the reason u still need to stack it with test for best results. testosterone is a safe substance to u, if u dont know how your body handles something natural like testosterone how do u know how its gonna handle a molecule like equipoise, the first time i used equipoise on its own i suffered with anxiety and that was on 350mg a week,and i have never had an anxiety issue at all other than one 120mcg of clenbuterol. bud we are here to help out guys and 90% of the new comers on this site go for a test only cycle and love the results. if you are talking of taking equipoise it turns out to be damned expensive especially when u are telling the guys to run 700mg for 15weeks,then there is still the 6 week waiting period after your last shot for the starting of pct then 4-5 weeks for pct.. thats a 26week period,thats a shit long time for someone who is just starting off and not nessacary, doing 500mg of test cyp for 10 weeks means u are off with in 18 weeks and fully recovered after that,even with a small pct. that is less reckless for someone than going on a substance that can put strain on the body from the majorly increased red blood cell count... there are other side effects associated with equi bud especially for the 21 week mark.

Testosterone for his first cycle it is then. Haha

Hahaha got it

I wasn't considering the equi for this first cycle. I was just curious as to how they match up and it clearly just sparked a discussion that I might not have gotten to read so I'm glad I asked! I'll stick to the cycle as it shows.

While I've got you guys chippin' in on this cycle, I have a few other questions.

1) Could one just run the Arimidex or Letro throughout to prevent the gyno instead of waiting to see signs of it appear?

3) Pointless to front-load with 500-750mg on the first pin?

2) On another site someone suggested I start the HCG during the time between the last test pin and the pct.
Here is the exact post:

"i am a fan of people throwing in hcg towards the end of their cycle (or in that lag between last pin and pct) and am not a fan of pinning hcg during the pct. I feel this will further inhibit recovery. The nuts make work well again, but the mind/nut connection (lol) will be inhibited.

I would rather see you pin 125mg test 2x a week at least...instead of the once a week pin. based on the half life I think that you and your body will like this better.

I think that you can probably start pct about 14 days after the last shot, not 29. I take it you understand why you have to wait, but imo...you won't have to wait that long for that low dose of test to drop to a level that will allow your body to start producing naturally again.

my .02"

I'd like to stick with the 250mg shots but I'm interested in what you guys think about the comment on HCG and the 14 days before PCT as appose to the 29. Thoughts?

Like with the equi question, I'm just looking for info and opinions. The cycle obviously works great as is so I'll probably just stick to it to the tee. However, I would appreciate some opinions on the above quote.

1-i would go with the adex throughout the cycle but gyno should not be a hassle.
2-frontload is a good idea if you are pinnin long esters.it will help you while you wait for the test to kick in @ week 4-6.
3-i am not sure about the hcg but as i have it you only use it when you start your nolva in your pct @500iu every 2nd day.

In short, yes you can. Run adex during the whole cycle (estrogenic sides shouldn't even apear at 500mg weekly, maybe a little water retention), no that won't help, even if you take 500mg more on your first pin the time it takes for the hormone to be released into your bloodstream will stay the same. The hcg during cycle is over kill for a test only cycle. You don't need it, use it during pct. I can safely say that everyone will agree with me on that.

Great! Thanks for the input okes!