Steroids and HGH stack

I’m starting an intermediate steroid cycle next year January, it is basically the testen, deca, cycle on this website but instead of front loading with dbol I will use anapolons. I used dbol in both my previous cyles, want to try something else. I will be using PCT no 3. I’ve been on a beginner cycle early this year and did my first cycle in 2010 so this will be my third cycle.

I also plan on running HGH (Keifei) at 4iu a day, 5 on and two days off for the whole year.

I have two questions:

Firstly: Would there be a big difference if one runs a steroid cycle of lets say 16 weeks without GH vs running it with GH. Koe007, I know you have a lot of experience with GH so maybe you can shed some light if you see this post. Anyone else with experience, please advize.

Secondly: I see a lot of people asking the question; is it not too soon for you to be starting HGH? I mean why would it be too soon for anyone to start with GH (exept for when you are too young, thats a different story)? The stuff is allot safer than steroids. It builds new muscle cells which in turn have new receptors for your next steroid cycle. I think the sooner you start with HGH the better, if you can afford it of course. If you keep on building new muscle cells which have new receptors for the steroids then wont the next steroid cycle work better? This is just my opinion, I may be dead wrong.

Good cycle,firstly I would run it at 5iu/day for muscle building results, as you said gh creates new cells and steroids enhance existing cells thus there is synergy and greater results combining the two as opposed to running them alone. I would add in a low dose of T3 say 20mcg and 50mcg t4 as gh prolonged affects t3 production. Secondly gh is not as safe as you may think,there is not enough conclusive research as to its prolonged effects on heart,cancer cells to name a few. The reasoning for only using it later on in life is similair to that of steroid use at a young age, your body is still producing enough of test and gh naturally up to the age of about 26 therefore interfering with that axis of the endocrine system will lead to greater risk of experiencing side effects later on in life. I only started gh last year at 27. I would also split your dose 2.5iu am as you wake up and early afternoon, no food an hour before or after your shot, intramuscular is superior imo.

Thank you Koe, very good info. I will run at 5iu then because my aim is to build muscle. I will also include some t3.

I am 33 so not too young for GH. I was actually referring to when people mean you are not experienced enough or have not used steroids for long enough. Some people believe you should only start with GH once youve reached a limit of growth with steroids.

Pleasure at your age I don't see a problem with that dose or cycle. As I have stated I love gh cycle it at least 5 months for optimal results