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dYna-BULL
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18 Nov 2011 16:55 #83410 by dYna-BULL

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ek sukkel heeltyd om te verstaan watse verskil aromasin,arimidex,letrozole,proviron en nolva ON cycle gaan maki? het enigiemand help...

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18 Nov 2011 17:06 #83414 by jakes

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Aromasin is 'n pil, dex is 'n drop, albei werk baie goed. Nolva is meer geskik vir pct, letro is seke die geodkoopste en sterkste maar hy verlaag jou estrogeen vlakke bietjie teveel. Hys baie sterk. Proviron isi rerig 'n ai. Dis 'n steroid, hy maak testosteroon wat sirkileer vry en is soos 'n moderate ai.

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18 Nov 2011 17:11 #83416 by dYna-BULL

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jho! okay haaha is jy soos 'n dokter of iets jy weet al die kak! watse sides kry jy van te laag estrogen?

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18 Nov 2011 23:08 #83460 by STUARTF

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Jakes pretty much summed it up but to break it down further: A-dex and Letro are AIs that block the aromataze enzymes that are responsible for estrogen production. Aromasin is an AI but is different to Letro and A-dex as it does not block but actually destroys the aromataze enzyme.
A-dex and aromasin come with the least side effects but are quite pricey. Letro is cheaper but is much more harsh on the body and can cause libido issues, joint pain and fatigue.
Nolva and clomid are SERMS or anti-estrogens and work by binding to the estrogen receptor sites thereby reducing estrogen build-up. They arten't as effective as an AI on-cycle but are always an essential part of PCT.
Proviron is a DHT steroid which has anti-estrogen properties but in no way can it be used instaed of an AI or SERM.

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dYna-BULL
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19 Nov 2011 12:58 #83489 by dYna-BULL

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i cant seem to get my hands on neither adex nor aromasin, what would happen if i run letro on cycle or nolva, also what would a good dosage be??

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19 Nov 2011 13:09 #83492 by STUARTF

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What is your cycle?

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19 Nov 2011 15:01 #83505 by VonD

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dYna-BULL wrote: i cant seem to get my hands on neither adex nor aromasin, what would happen if i run letro on cycle or nolva, also what would a good dosage be??

be specific with regards to the cycle you are going to run.

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19 Nov 2011 21:47 #83549 by dYna-BULL

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im did 3d shot today, im on PGW supertest320, pinning 1ml (320mg) e4d....frontloading with dbol 50mg ED for 20days....pct clomid,hcg/pregnyl and ghrp6. . . first cycle
stats:
86kg
15-16% bf
23 y/o

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19 Nov 2011 22:14 #83551 by machine

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19 Nov 2011 22:26 #83554 by dYna-BULL

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i see what your saying but what negative effects and to what extent will u have if i run letro on cycle @ 0.25mg e4d...? cant seem to find adex or aromasin!?

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19 Nov 2011 22:39 #83555 by machine

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i ususalluy do 10 drops EOD keeps nipples down but kills the labido, you can get cabasser to sort it out if you want a decent shag. wont do a cucle without an ai. i have read that letro can actually start to destroy the gyno that has formed.but dont knowfif that true. have not felt no join pain or fatigue. just cant have a decent shag. my girl complain. i am usually an animal when i am on cycle. Cabaser or dostinex fix it though but it expesive pharma producgt

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19 Nov 2011 23:08 #83558 by STUARTF

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@machine: Aromasin in effect is the best AI out of the lot as it totally destroys the aromataze enzyme. There's nothing wrong with the blocking effect of Letro and Adex and the difference in remaining estrogen levels compared to aromasin will probably be miniscule.
Cabaser and Dostinex are anti-progesterone compounds and are used to block prolactin & progesterone build-up from 19-nors like Deca, NPP and Tren.
Letro will not destroy the gyno tissue once it is formed. Only means of getting rid of it is surgery.

@dyno-BULL: Letro will be fine at 0.25mg E4D for your cycle. Like I said A-dex has less sides but is double the price. Aromasin can be used on-cycle but it is more commonly used for PCT (Doctaris PCT).

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20 Nov 2011 02:33 #83567 by dYna-BULL

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thanx alot man! but how much less will i gain? also will it kill my libido so bad i cant get a boner? will viagra help this problem because i can get it? lol

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20 Nov 2011 17:37 #83610 by STUARTF

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Letro has no effect on muscle gains, it is purely used to counteract estrogen side effects. Its not so much that you won't get a boner... it doesn't cause impotence, but it will cause you to lose interest in sex. When I have lost my libido in the past (more from being shut down), I could have had a 10/10 supermodel naked in my bed begging for it and I still would find better things to do. Look not everybody suffers from libido issues from letro, but it is something you should keep in mind. You are running supertest at 320mg E4D, which is not a huge dosage, perhaps keep the letro on hand in case estro sides pop up.

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20 Nov 2011 21:02 #83635 by dYna-BULL

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okay thanx man generally i am a very horny person lol! so hope it doesnt happen...another thing, i did my third shot yesterday, well my girlfriend did it for me in right glute and today there is pain up to my lower lower-back??

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20 Nov 2011 21:13 - 20 Nov 2011 21:14 #83638 by ABC01

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I just wanted to ask you how you are handling the supertest. Its known to cripple few people :lol:

Heat the supertest up a bit with hairdryer before pinning. Also inject slowly. I take almost 1min to inject. Massage the site well after pinning

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20 Nov 2011 21:19 #83639 by jakes

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ABC01 wrote: I just wanted to ask you how you are handling the supertest. Its known to cripple few people :lol:

Heat the supertest up a bit with hairdryer before pinning. Also inject slowly. I take almost 1min to inject. Massage the site well after pinning

I can't keep it in that long, lol find that faster is better for me. Also also inject with 21's. 23's are a fkup.

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20 Nov 2011 21:22 #83640 by dYna-BULL

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i'm gonna be completely honest here...the day i went for my first shot- my friend pins me cos i'm scared to shit of needles. he kept talking kak into my head and kept telling me how bad it was going to hurt, but eventually after 53mins of freaking out he eventually poked me and it was nothing...until that night! my right glute felt like it had internal bleeding and the next day it started swelling but eventually went down. the next shot was nothing, left glute...the next day it was less painful than having a stiff bicep, but yesterday my gf pinned me and its f-ing sore! i have pain into my ''stuitjie''.. but its not as bad as everyone makes it sound? ive had worse pain. . . .if you perhaps know whats causing this pain in my right glute everytime PLEASE COMMENT!

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20 Nov 2011 21:28 #83641 by ABC01

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It can be a number of things. You still have "vergin muscle" so it probably will hurt. The injection might have been too quick/needle moved around while pinning/pin site maybe a little high on the glute.

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20 Nov 2011 21:30 #83643 by dYna-BULL

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i kinda thought it was a bit high on the glute and she did move around while pinning! she was more nervous than i was...so its not like I hit a nerv or something?

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20 Nov 2011 21:35 - 20 Nov 2011 21:36 #83647 by ABC01

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Left glute on the inside is a big no go! Very important nerve running there and hitting it might cause huge problems. Trust me, you will know if you did hit it.

Get some cataflam for the 1st couple of pins. Its a anti inflamatory and will sort out the pain and swelling

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20 Nov 2011 21:42 #83651 by dYna-BULL

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i have got coxflam? any good? also anti-inflammtry

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20 Nov 2011 22:02 #83656 by machine

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@stuf - does aromasin and adex cause loss of labido then?

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20 Nov 2011 22:13 #83658 by STUARTF

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No, thats why I use A-dex over Letro.

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20 Nov 2011 22:41 #83659 by machine

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thankyou * 10000000000000000000000000000000000000 BRO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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