first time stanozol user

what can i expect from using stanozol for the first time and how often, but at first im using deca and sus 250 for 12 weeks at both 2 mls a week from diamond pharma but the stanozol is from RWR veterinary what do you think

Firslty, you aren't running enough test. I'd run atleast twice the amount of test. The amount of test should be atleast 1 and a half times higher than te deca dose you run. Your libido must be fcked hey? Anyway when are you planning to run the winni? At the end to harden up a bit or another cycle after the one you are busy with?

Winny burns like fire But works nice to harden up after your cycle..aspecialy that 1 you whant to go on...you must also be willing to do variouse site injections..

Together with a calorie-reduced diet which is rich in protein Winstrol Depot gives the muscles a continuously harder appearance. Winstrol Depot is usually not used as the only steroid during dieting since, based on its low androgenic component, it does not reliably protect the athlete from losing muscle tissue. If you are looking to harden up after your cycle 100mg eod. If your bodyfat is highish first do a proper pct then after an off period cycle winstrol, test prop and maybe clen. Winstrol isn't a magic drug to lean you up. Its your diet...

jakes wrote: Together with a calorie-reduced diet which is rich in protein Winstrol Depot gives the muscles a continuously harder appearance. Winstrol Depot is usually not used as the only steroid during dieting since, based on its low androgenic component, it does not reliably protect the athlete from losing muscle tissue. If you are looking to harden up after your cycle 100mg eod. If your bodyfat is highish first do a proper pct then after an off period cycle winstrol, test prop and maybe clen. Winstrol isn't a magic drug to lean you up. Its your diet...

Dude, what's the point of posting google search results here? It is dangerous regurgitating advice off the internet.

Dude its not a google post. Edited to suit the thread. Where the heck is it a direct quote? Only information that could be seen as a quote is "Together with a calorie-reduced diet which is rich in protein Winstrol Depot gives the muscles a continuously harder appearance. Winstrol Depot is usually not used as the only steroid during dieting since, based on its low androgenic component" the rest I added and, it is true and is relevant to his question

I have only used oral winni before and i love it. Cant imagine ending a cycle without it. You can immediately feel when the winni kicks in (around 2nd week for me). It also does not give me joint pain or trouble (which i am aware of)

How long do you normally run it and at what dose abc?

jakes wrote: Dude its not a google post. Edited to suit the thread. Where the heck is it a direct quote? Only information that could be seen as a quote is "Together with a calorie-reduced diet which is rich in protein Winstrol Depot gives the muscles a continuously harder appearance. Winstrol Depot is usually not used as the only steroid during dieting since, based on its low androgenic component" the rest I added and, it is true and is relevant to his question

Strange then that the whole first half of your post returns 100's of hits in google. Try it - it's taken word for word from some other site. Just saying. I'm not trying to be a toss or anything. Have a lekker weekend.

Eidolon wrote:

jakes wrote: Dude its not a google post. Edited to suit the thread. Where the heck is it a direct quote? Only information that could be seen as a quote is "Together with a calorie-reduced diet which is rich in protein Winstrol Depot gives the muscles a continuously harder appearance. Winstrol Depot is usually not used as the only steroid during dieting since, based on its low androgenic component" the rest I added and, it is true and is relevant to his question

Strange then that the whole first half of your post returns 100's of hits in google. Try it - it's taken word for word from some other site. Just saying. I'm not trying to be a toss or anything. Have a lekker weekend.

First 3 lines... Part of articles saved on my pc. Its true and explains a little bit, I don't see the harm... Leke weekend

jakes wrote: How long do you normally run it and at what dose abc?

6 weeks at 50mg/day. I split it during the day. If i gym in morning i take 20mg before gym 20mg lunch and 10mg before bed. Guess you can split it in 2 as well as long as you split it

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jakes wrote: How long do you normally run it and at what dose abc?

6 weeks at 50mg/day. I split it during the day. If i gym in morning i take 20mg before gym 20mg lunch and 10mg before bed. Guess you can split it in 2 as well as long as you split it

Just winstrol or do you add prop to the mix too? I'm looking to run something similar next year to cut a little fat.

I dont use it alone. I just add it to the end of my cycles, usually as a bridge to pct if you are using long ester cycles. Test prop/winni cycle is a great simple cutting cycle. Add proviron and you are ready to go

I'm planning on. Test prop, anavar and proviron. (Ill also be pinning riverzine) and 100mg winni eod the last 6 weeks. Some stubborn fat I want to get rid of on my stomach. The liver toxicity with winni isn't a prob when you only run it 6 weeks?

jakes wrote: I'm planning on. Test prop, anavar and proviron. (Ill also be pinning riverzine) and 100mg winni eod the last 6 weeks. Some stubborn fat I want to get rid of on my stomach. The liver toxicity with winni isn't a prob when you only run it 6 weeks?

Test prop/anavar/proviron is a great cycle. Try and run it for 10 weeks. 100mg winni ed for 6 weeks is allot especially if you are allready running anavar. I would do something like this:

Week 1 - 10: Test prop: 150mg eod
Week 1-10: Anavar:80mg ed
Week 1 - day before pct: proviron 60mg ed
Last 6 weeks of cycle (till 2days before pct): 50mg winne ed

I would be carefull running 2 orals together but in a resent thread the guys thought running anavar and winni together is ok.

Look after your liver. Something like milkthiste/legalon/essetiale during cycle and SAMe and legalon post cycle

I don't like milk thristle etc as it can hinder gains but I guess its a must on this cycle. One question tho, the winni is dosed at 50mg/ml and its suspended in water right? (Never used the injectable before) so I can pin it with a slin needle. So daily injections will be required unless I get the oilbased one? Just to make sure

jakes wrote: I don't like milk thristle etc as it can hinder gains but I guess its a must on this cycle. One question tho, the winni is dosed at 50mg/ml and its suspended in water right? (Never used the injectable before) so I can pin it with a slin needle. So daily injections will be required unless I get the oilbased one? Just to make sure

Well i have not used the injectable winni. From what i know its waterbased and needs to be injected intra muscular daily. I really dont know why people take it in this form

I kinda like injecting. Keeps me motivated in a weird way lol

hey jake thanks for the info yeah after the test to harden up, so you think 2mls of each a week is not enough? i got 3 10ml vials of each at 400 each is expensive im in australia and its not easy to find just hope its legit will see i guess

It's not that it's not enough bud it's that it is better to run your test at double the amount of deca. So if you running 600mg test run 300mg deca. How many cycles have you done? What is your stats, age, height, weight and bf%?

Hey bud, went on diamond pharma website to see what dose their deca is and see that it is also 250mg/ml. Depending on your cycle history which doesn't seem like you've done many, would shoot 500mg test and 250mg deca. Run you test 2weeks longer than last deca shot and if you can get your hands on ovidrel (HCG) it would benifit you to take this through your cycle as deca will shut you down even at 100mg. Take a look at one of the sample cycles that have deca in it and you should get an estimate on when to take your HCG shots this will just get the boys working again

hey thanks for ur info yes this is my second time, im 42years 95kg and 5"11 always been athletic and lean bench 110kg so you think i should do 2mls a week of test and 1ml of deca like i said ive got 3 vials of each 10mls in each and 2 of stano 20ml in each any info would be good i live in a remote place and not easy to source thanks