Clen & Heat

Hey guys sorry for a nother Clen cycle forum. I am currently on a Clen and HEAT. I am starting with HEAT on Friday. Just want to know if this is correct or should I make any changes.

Also add 1,5g of Taurine when on Clen due to muscle cramps. Do weight training 5 times a week and 20 min LI Cardio 3-4 times a week after gym and on Saturday's 45-60 min LI cardio with few intervals. My cardio just consists of cycling on a spinning bike. I go to the gym at about 5pm. Sorry for the wrong section!!


Week 1 = 40mcg - 80mcg Clen
Week 2 = 80mcg - 120mcg Clen
Week 3 = 2 Caps Heat ( 1cap morning , 1cap before exercise) and 1 cap Betasleep before Bed.
Week 4 = 3 Caps Heat ( 1cap morning, 1cap lunch and 1cap before exercise)
Week 5 = 60mcg - 100mcg Clen
Week 6 = 100mcg - 120mcg Clen (1cap BetaSleep before bed)
Week 7 = 3 Caps Heat ( 1cap morning, 1cap lunch and 1cap before exercise)
Week 8 = 4 Caps Heat ( 2caps morning, 1cap lunch and 1cap before exercise)

Thanks

Taper down at the end, else you're going to feel very flat once you stop. I'd run the Betasleep trough the cycle too.

Eidolon wrote: Taper down at the end, else you're going to feel very flat once you stop. I'd run the Betasleep trough the cycle too.

Should I taper down Clen and Heat? I am using BetaSleep, but only every third week. Are you saying I should use BS everyday?

I've also just started with this cycle.

I took 40mcg clen on day 1, 60mcg on day two and I took 70mcg today (day 3). I am thinking of going up 10mcg per day from now onwards until I reach 120mcg or sides become unbearable. I have no sides yet.

Does that strategy sound about right for the clen? I have the liquid form from LP. I am also taking betasleep at one capsule per day for the first week, will up it to two capsules in week 2.

After two weeks switch to Heat for two weeks, then clen for two weeks. Rinse and repeat.

For how long can one run this cycle, 8 - 12 weeks?

Thanks

AvR wrote: I've also just started with this cycle.

I took 40mcg clen on day 1, 60mcg on day two and I took 70mcg today (day 3). I am thinking of going up 10mcg per from now onwards until I reach 120mcg or sides become unbearable. I have no sides yet.

Does that strategy sound about right for the clen? I have the liquid form from LP. I am also taking betasleep at one capsule per day for the first week, will up it to two capsules in week 2.

After two weeks switch to Heat for two weeks, then clen for two weeks. Rinse and repeat.

For how long can one run this cycle, 8 - 12 weeks?

Thanks

I see a lot of guys running it for that period of time, but don't think it's a very good idea. That means your heart is under stress for 3 months! I would say 8 weeks and then a nother week to taper down if you feel sleepy like some users experience. Are you taking Betasleep everyday for the whole cycle?

iMan wrote:

Eidolon wrote: Taper down at the end, else you're going to feel very flat once you stop. I'd run the Betasleep trough the cycle too.

Should I taper down Clen and Heat? I am using BetaSleep, but only every third week. Are you saying I should use BS everyday?

You probably don't have to taper down. I just find that suddenly stopping a high dosage of clen or ephedrine makes me feel a little tired for the next few days.

Most guys run betasleep or ketotifen throughout their cycle. The only way to really decide what works for you is to monitor your body temp - if it remains slightly elevated, your strategy is working. Otherwise add more betasleep or take a break.

iMan wrote: Hey guys sorry for a nother Clen cycle forum. I am currently on a Clen and HEAT. I am starting with HEAT on Friday. Just want to know if this is correct or should I make any changes.

Also add 1,5g of Taurine when on Clen due to muscle cramps. Do weight training 5 times a week and 20 min LI Cardio 3-4 times a week after gym and on Saturday's 45-60 min LI cardio with few intervals. My cardio just consists of cycling on a spinning bike. I go to the gym at about 5pm. Sorry for the wrong section!!


Week 1 = 40mcg - 80mcg Clen
Week 2 = 80mcg - 120mcg Clen
Week 3 = 2 Caps Heat ( 1cap morning , 1cap before exercise) and 1 cap Betasleep before Bed.
Week 4 = 3 Caps Heat ( 1cap morning, 1cap lunch and 1cap before exercise)
Week 5 = 60mcg - 100mcg Clen
Week 6 = 100mcg - 120mcg Clen (1cap BetaSleep before bed)
Week 7 = 3 Caps Heat ( 1cap morning, 1cap lunch and 1cap before exercise)
Week 8 = 4 Caps Heat ( 2caps morning, 1cap lunch and 1cap before exercise)

Thanks

Hey bud - I see you're planning to take your HEAT before exersize around 5pm - ish...

From personal experience with HEAT - i never take it after 3pm. Made the mistake of taking around 5pm before and just felt far too hyped to fall asleep at night. Obviously, the affect of the stimulants vary from individual to individual, but this has been my experience.

How are you finding the affects on your sleep taking it at 5pm?

Thanks.

iMan wrote:

AvR wrote: I've also just started with this cycle.

I took 40mcg clen on day 1, 60mcg on day two and I took 70mcg today (day 3). I am thinking of going up 10mcg per from now onwards until I reach 120mcg or sides become unbearable. I have no sides yet.

Does that strategy sound about right for the clen? I have the liquid form from LP. I am also taking betasleep at one capsule per day for the first week, will up it to two capsules in week 2.

After two weeks switch to Heat for two weeks, then clen for two weeks. Rinse and repeat.

For how long can one run this cycle, 8 - 12 weeks?

Thanks

I see a lot of guys running it for that period of time, but don't think it's a very good idea. That means your heart is under stress for 3 months! I would say 8 weeks and then a nother 2 weeks to taper down, to prevent from feeling tired. Are you taking Betasleep everyday for the whole cycle?

Thanks iMan,

No I will not be taking the betasleep for the whole cycle, only when doing clen. Will go the 8 week route then.

Eidolon wrote:

iMan wrote:

Eidolon wrote: Taper down at the end, else you're going to feel very flat once you stop. I'd run the Betasleep trough the cycle too.

Should I taper down Clen and Heat? I am using BetaSleep, but only every third week. Are you saying I should use BS everyday?

You probably don't have to taper down. I just find that suddenly stopping a high dosage of clen or ephedrine makes me feel a little tired for the next few days.

Most guys run betasleep or ketotifen throughout their cycle. The only way to really decide what works for you is to monitor your body temp - if it remains slightly elevated, your strategy is working. Otherwise add more betasleep or take a break.

@Eidolon - I am monitoring 3-5 times a day and log it to compare atm

@Rowan - I have not taken Heat before, but have taken ECA (know Heat is ECA, but the eca I took was bad quality) before and felt fine. So I am starting it on Friday and test it out then

So I just took HEAT 30min's ago. I just took 1 cap and my face is red and on fire! Gonna do some cardio now

@Iman how is your diet looking bud? Your previous post just popped up again was just wondering if that is going better?

iMan wrote: So I just took HEAT 30min's ago. I just took 1 cap and my face is red and on fire! Gonna do some cardio now

haha nice!

just out of interest - which heat you using? red bottle or white bottle?
Oh - and how are the shakes?? :S

peace...

Rowan the white bottle heat is fake,i have warned u on this in older posts,i know u are in PMB and the heat in that shop by the virgin is fake,the only one to use is the red bottle otherwise u are wasting your money!

@David - I am doing a semi keto diet atm, the Scivation Gameover vol4 diet with a few changes. Yes done with my first 2weeks with clen , pushed it up to 120mcg and had nice results so far, not sure if it's the clen or diet. My temp did not increase much 0.3 or so. Had very little sides as well. Thanks for asking

@Rowan - It's a red bottle with silver cap. I did not have any shakes this morning when I took it, I only took one cap though. I believe when I push it to 2-4 I will get some.

DJ wrote: Rowan the white bottle heat is fake,i have warned u on this in older posts,i know u are in PMB and the heat in that shop by the virgin is fake,the only one to use is the red bottle otherwise u are wasting your money!

Took your advice VERY seriously with that one boet! Was just trying to see if iMan had been jooped as well or has the right stuff.

Iv just had to settle for the Mach4 eca (from a diff shop) which seems to be ok as its been giving me slight shakes & i feel flushed.
Doesnt compare to the heat though, but I'm a bit bummed with the new "procurement process" as its a bit of a schlep.


Sorry to Jack iMan ...

Ok so I started developing slight chest pain about two days ago and it goes and come back again. Having slight chest pain at the moment as well. I am using 2 caps Heat atm, took one this morning. I am going to come of all stimulants/substances for 5 days and check if it disappears. Will then start with one cap and check how it goes. If I get chest pains again I am going to stop immediately. The one thing that bugs me if I fully breath in, I get a stich pain on my left rib (steek pyn in afrikaans). Hearrt rate is stable, going to do BP test this weekend after the heat works out

Discontinue use for a week or 2.and try 1 cap again and see how it goes.Rather safe than sorry.

It may be a deep muscle strain, I do really hope so. I am getting such great results atm. But will stop and be safe. I did very heavy pullovers a few days ago

iMan wrote: It may be a deep muscle strain, I do really hope so. I am getting such great results atm. But will stop and be safe. I did very heavy pullovers a few days ago

could be the pull overs....but rather safe.goodluck man

Can someone else please comment? Friend said it might be a wind or inflammation in the ribs