Crazy youngsters first cycle

Was advised to start a new tread thanks.

Hi

Need some advice for my 22 year old son, no living with me. He’s in Jo’burg.

Just found out that he and 3 friends got hold of some Supertest 350 and is 6 weeks into their first cycle.

1ml twice a week and talking about doubling up to 2 ml twice a week, at least he agreed to stick 1 ml twice a week.

and really pushing one another in the gym. Told him to watch out for side effect, phones me back and, one of them is already growing tits,

but who cares every one in the gym got tits. Tells me he’s jags all the and klapped the security guard this afternoon.

His details. 22 years old

just under 2 m tall . Tells me he is still growing taller.

Starting weight 81kg .Tall and Lean training for 3/4 years

After 6 weeks 98 kg . tells me he picked up a lot of stomach fat

6 weeks gain 17kg...

They can get hold of Winstol and planing to witch to that after 8 weeks for I don't know how long and straight back to SuperT 350.

His goal 120 kg

At 55 I have a low T problem so I have done a lot of research ( started a new thread ‘ low T’ ) But I am not in a position to advise him about a proper cycle.

Thanking you in anticipation

Andre

Andre N wrote: Was advised to start a new tread thanks.

Hi

Need some advice for my 22 year old son, no living with me. He’s in Jo’burg.

Just found out that he and 3 friends got hold of some Supertest 350 and is 6 weeks into their first cycle.

1ml twice a week and talking about doubling up to 2 ml twice a week, at least he agreed to stick 1 ml twice a week.

and really pushing one another in the gym. Told him to watch out for side effect, phones me back and, one of them is already growing tits,

but who cares every one in the gym got tits. Tells me he’s jags all the and klapped the security guard this afternoon.

His details. 22 years old

just under 2 m tall . Tells me he is still growing taller.

Starting weight 81kg .Tall and Lean training for 3/4 years

After 6 weeks 98 kg . tells me he picked up a lot of stomach fat

6 weeks gain 17kg...

They can get hold of Winstol and planing to witch to that after 8 weeks for I don't know how long and straight back to SuperT 350.

His goal 120 kg

At 55 I have a low T problem so I have done a lot of research ( started a new thread ‘ low T’ ) But I am not in a position to advise him about a proper cycle.

Thanking you in anticipation

Andre

LMAO!!! You sound like a 22 year old son.Thread is funny as fuck,im impressed.

Hi Tiny

This is serius ... got my own problems ... See topic Low T levels.

Andre N... Are you english speaking?

Mr SA ... No Afrikaans.

Your son is a first time user evidently his receptors are fresh, thus his huge increase in weight which sadly is mostly water and fat.
If he is serious about bodybuilding he needs to start off in the right place.
1.Nutrition
2.Training
3.Supplements
As far as he can go naturally, it sounds like he is a bit of a kamikaze user who needs serious guidance in his approach to steroids, all the negative and positive effects it can have.
Get him to get hold of DJ for a proper diet and training regime to assist him in his new found passion.
FYI going on cycle with no proper PCT and no break can lead to harmful side effects.
More is not always better, get the basics right then work from there.

@Andre. The advice that guys give u on this site must be taken seriously. Its world class advice that u won't find anywhere else.Most ppl here talk out of experiance and proven facts. My advice is that u need to do more research and ur son aswell! Knowledge is power! Don't rush into things that may damage ur body and organs.I agree with Koe 100%

Tell your son to join this website, tell him you found the coolest website where people chat about taking juice and what results you can get if things are done correctly or where people that have gone through bad cycles and no pct can tell your son that he needs to wake up and do things proper!!

Thanks Koe. ... Thanks Half

Thanks David

Will get him to join the site and invite him to view this tread.

Regards

His son sounds a bit arrogant, klapping security guards for what?

hopefully he listens...

Update and some advice please.

His friend has doubled the Supertest 350 to 2 ml twice a week don't know when they intend stopping.

This is what we are looking at.

Supertest 350 2ml per week 8 weeks until 3 Nov.

Winstal 20/30 mg start 3 Nov 4 weeks until 1 Dec (should it be used for longer)

PCT Clomid/Navadex Start 1 Dec ( will see what he can get from a friend of his non user friend )

Don't think he will mix Ovidrel properly, about Pregnyl he said “I dont want that woman stuff” Wont tell him how it is made.

Do you change the intensity of your training when you start using Winstal?

Now the main problem is the Christmas partying and the Mozambique trip during the PCT.

Can we start PCT sooner? How important is training during PCT?

Thanks.

Andre N, looks to me like you are doing this cycle with your son?

It will be useless starting pct to soon , and yes training is very important during pct ,

Michael wrote: Andre N, looks to me like you are doing this cycle with your son?

Sounds like you are the one on this cycle and getting some bad advice from someone to do this and do that.

end of the day who ever is the one on the cycle, stop now, go to PCT.. And then reseach and put a course layout together and eating plan, put it on the site, and take it from there...

Please this is serious not a joke.

What must I tell him? Stop the drinking, stop chasing after every woman you see, stop the
steroids and we will talk about this on Sunday after church? You really think that will work?


I’m 55 years old live in Durban, he is 22 years old and in Jo’burg, I divorced his mother when he was 3 years old.
I can’t order him to do anything.
I only found out last weekend that he was 6 weeks into a supertest cycle.
All I can do is try and steer him in the right direction. Screaming and shouting wont work, will leave that for his mother when she find out, at least something she is good at.

I was never into body building and all I know about steroids is what I could learn on the net in little over a week.
He just said Supertest and the Winstal, got him to understand that he needs PCT .
He talks about starting his next cycle in Jan when he comes back from the holidays, will get him to undestand better by then.

I need answer's to my questions in my last post. I know that they are doing this all wrong, stupid and dangerous.

These youngsters has gained more weight in 6 weeks than they have gained from 3 years of training, talks about 5 kg gain last week alone. Pants from 36” to 38”
Shirt from L to XL. Can you understand that? Does it sound familiar? Can you imagine what they are thinking? It al thanks to this “wondrefull” and cheap Supertest they found
One of his friends want to stay on the Supertest 350 for 6 months. (fist 6 weeks 2ml per week now up to 4ml per week.)

Hope you understand better now.

Regards
Andre

i feel for you Andre. Bottom line is he cannot continue on this...what you want is guidance on how he can continue safely...no such luck! Pump is right, he needs to stop and do PCT and get his facts on gear first. and loosing his dumbass friends wont be a bad idea either, they are not educated enough to use or give advice.

There is a some hard lessons for him to learn here, has he joined the forum yet?

An adult male--Elderly male--- with a profile pic of a little boy????????????
I am concerned, very concerned. :sick:
Maybe this is your problem with your son

ontong i dont think he has the profile pic up for that reason, is a bit wierd considering the nature of the site tho

Kkkyle----how zit bru, ja for me that's just as weird. Sorry to say this, but this dude is just a bit creepy

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defiinately not normal and even his posts are unusual.
Enough said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think Tiny smelt a rat as well

or maybe he is just a concerned father who is smart enough to know that he can't dissuade his son, so he is going to help him instead. Come on, keep the personal stuff to a min and stick to the thread topic.

Thanks Etwa.

He is getting a new laptop this weekend, will get him to join the site and see for himself.

Will get him to stop the Supertest.

Can he then start on the Winstrol as he intended? He is very eager and that will keep him occupied
until he is ready to start PCT.It apears that Winstrol has anti-estrogen properties, see below.
So he will be running on his own natural T while he waits for the efect of the long ester T to run out.

Winstrol lowers Sex- Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) dramatically. Also see the Proviron profile for how it binds to SHBG instead. Using both of these compounds at the same time, will dramatically free up a huge amount of testosterone to actively cycle your bloodstream. The more free testosterone the better its activity will be.

Winstrol is not aromatased by the body and thus no estrogenic side-effects will be experienced. Since water-retention is a side-effect of estrogenic activity

Regards.

Andre

Hi Ontong... I started a week ago with a profile pic of myself, even using my own name. Changed it last night, if it will help getting some good advice I can change it back again, if the pic disturbs you so much. Just tell me and I will change for you. Now what advice can you give me.

Regards
Andre

@andre best thing is for your son to stop and start pct as 00pump has recomended. Keep the winny for properly constructed cycle with pct. What we trying to get at is once your sons knowledge on roids is up to standard and until then he shouldn't touch another needle or aas. He is going f#*k himself up!! Next he'll be taking GH and insulin because some guy said it was the best for growth and end up killing himself. Knowledge is power, this is what is going to help your son to do anything in a safe manor. The sooner you can get that through to your son the better. Not giving him advice on what steroid to take next. The blind leading the blind

I for one commend you for trying to help your son! I'd also maybe suggest he comes off now and do a PCT then start fresh in the new year with proper knowledge and guidance if he wants it.

@Ontong, uncalled for brother