What was your first cycle?

Hi guys, just wanted to know what your first cycle was. I did dbol and test cyp cycle. I would've taken sus and deca which is probably a really good cycle but would never have done a pct. Thank goodness I found this site and the guys on this site which has given me a bit of insight on how things should be done properly!!

Yeah, unfortunately I didn't have the luxury of sites like this when I started. I got told to do a horrible cycle by my supplier which was 250mg Sust/wk with 500mg Deca/wk. Naturally, it totally killed my libido and caused serious problems in my relationship with my girlfriend at the time. I had absolutely no interest in sex what so ever that entire cycle and didn't realize what was causing it which was scary in itself. It was only until I had done some research and joined the forum on steroidology.com that I became a bit more clued up. My second cycle was Depotrone, Winny and Laurabolin I think.

I did a low dose of 250mg/week testovron for 12 weeks. I did see good results from that dosage. People started dishing out compliments after about 7 weeks. I still think you dont need massive test dosages for good results. I dont have experience with high dosages anyway

First cycle was 500mg cypionate per week(evolve and nomad) kick started with dbols and only clomid for pct.

Currently I'm in wk 6 of beginners cycle 500 mg testocyp pw. PGW
Full pct this time thanks to this site.
Thinking I might increase dosage for last 2 weeks or even extend to 12 weeks with a couple of vials of sustanon.

My 1st cycle was:

1-12 Testoviron 500mg/week
1-10 deca 350mg/week
1-3 30mg dianabol per day
and full docs pct

STUARTF wrote: Yeah, unfortunately I didn't have the luxury of sites like this when I started. I got told to do a horrible cycle by my supplier which was 250mg Sust/wk with 500mg Deca/wk. Naturally, it totally killed my libido and caused serious problems in my relationship with my girlfriend at the time. I had absolutely no interest in sex what so ever that entire cycle and didn't realize what was causing it which was scary in itself. It was only until I had done some research and joined the forum on steroidology.com that I became a bit more clued up. My second cycle was Depotrone, Winny and Laurabolin I think.

Hey Stu, this is exactly why I have asked this question. Want to see how many people got the wrong advice for a first cycle and what it was so that others don't make the same mistake. Thank you for sharing

Thanks bro. I think so many of us learn the hard way by trusting our so called 'knowledgable supplier' or that big guy in the gym. Its crazy what advise these okes dish out sometimes, makes me want to go punch them in the nads, if they have any left from those 20 week d-bol cycles, haha.

STUARTF wrote: Thanks bro. I think so many of us learn the hard way by trusting our so called 'knowledgable supplier' or that big guy in the gym. Its crazy what advise these okes dish out sometimes, makes me want to go punch them in the nads, if they have any left from those 20 week d-bol cycles, haha.

haha, yeah completely agree. That was one that I was going to do to in a pyramid fashion. Like I said thank goodness I found this site

David.biohazard wrote:

STUARTF wrote: Thanks bro. I think so many of us learn the hard way by trusting our so called 'knowledgable supplier' or that big guy in the gym. Its crazy what advise these okes dish out sometimes, makes me want to go punch them in the nads, if they have any left from those 20 week d-bol cycles, haha.

haha, yeah completely agree. That was one that I was going to do to in a pyramid fashion. Like I said thank goodness I found this site

snap bru my first cycle from a guy in my gym was going to be 50mg of dbol for 6 weeks with clomid for PCT. Typed dbol into google and this site came up.. Good thing because he never even told me it was a steroid, said it was just stronger than creatine.

@chapal lol, that guy was super informed can't we get him on this site lol. I read that in laymens guide, it is a lame "cycle" If you can call it that. So what was your first cycle bud? 

My first cycle was 400mg depotrone per week for 8 weeks...

fiekie112 wrote: First cycle was 500mg cypionate per week(evolve and nomad) kick started with dbols and only clomid for pct.

Currently I'm in wk 6 of beginners cycle 500 mg testocyp pw. PGW
Full pct this time thanks to this site.
Thinking I might increase dosage for last 2 weeks or even extend to 12 weeks with a couple of vials of sustanon.

Can you please tell us why you never did a proper pct the first time, bad info or did you not do enough research?

SPUNKYDELUXE wrote: My first cycle was 400mg depotrone per week for 8 weeks...

Any specific reason you did test only and for only 8 weeks? Did you have pct in place?

@00pump I see you said thank you in the one thread, was wondering if you did the dbol only in pyrimid fashion?

Hmm, think I did many moons ago when that was thought to be the right way to do things... But no I wouldn't now...

Yeah, I used to pyramid all my cycles in the beginning. It seemed to be the going practice at the time as everyone I knew on juice seemed to do it. It makes no logical sense as it defeats the whole purpose of frontloading! So I think it was just a case of "monkey see, monkey do".

STUARTF wrote: Yeah, I used to pyramid all my cycles in the beginning. It seemed to be the going practice at the time as everyone I knew on juice seemed to do it. It makes no logical sense as it defeats the whole purpose of frontloading! So I think it was just a case of "monkey see, monkey do".

hey stu, there must have been some theory behind this?

Tippster wrote: My 1st cycle was:

1-12 Testoviron 500mg/week
1-10 deca 350mg/week
1-3 30mg dianabol per day
and full docs pct

good man

Maybe there is bud. Its just if one wants to keep blood hormone/plazma levels stable and consistant then one need to use a level dosage each week. If the doasges are all over the place then gains will be all over the place :silly:

@David.bio

Bro this was about 8 years ago....no one ever told me about things like pct..a guy I knew that time sold the stuff to me for a massive price....I picked up some good weight but lost all of it because of not really having a clue.

Only about 5 years after that i met a guy who helped to understand how all this works and also after a shit load of research and of course a lot of help from this forum did I try gear again and have had good results.

Some guys make money of uninformed guys and that pisses me off. They keep buying gear and not really getting anywhere...

It was due to control "side effects", people thought by slowely increasing the dose (like a drug, you will not just get put on 300mg of a BP med, they start you sometimes even on 5mg) the same theory applied here. Then when coming off, all medication GP's would recommend you slowely come off by taking smaller and smaller doses.. So this all came from (the right way of doing something) even though we know now, this isn't the way a steroid cycle should be handled

00pump wrote: It was due to control "side effects", people thought by slowely increasing the dose (like a drug, you will not just get put on 300mg of a BP med, they start you sometimes even on 5mg) the same theory applied here. Then when coming off, all medication GP's would recommend you slowely come off by taking smaller and smaller doses.. So this all came from (the right way of doing something) even though we know now, this isn't the way a steroid cycle should be handled

thanks 00pump. Kind of makes sense and no wonder people thought it to be the right way of doing things. What do most gp's know about roids anyway? Most of them rekon it clogs up the arteries and are bad for you. They are, If you do it incorectly but if done proper no problems. We want to be the best we can and are going to use anyway. Rather right than in the wrong way

Ye, end of the day, to become a GP you need to have a brain on you. However, all doctors carry trials out on us, whether we like to believe this or not... They say try this, let me know how you feel, let’s see if this works, if not we can try xyz.

Now because they don't get as many guys walking in the door to help construct a steroid cycle, they don't really have their own database and results coming back from bloods with their clients.

That’s why rather be open with your doctor, explain exactly what you doing, and say you coming there for them to monitor you. No better person than a doctor if something goes wrong, they know exactly what tests to carry out. And this way they are building up their own database of what seems to work and what side effects to expect at what dose.

I have so much respect for doctors, it’s just about finding one that is truly interested in you, they see how many patients a day and its more people that come in the door the more money they can pocket so quite a few of them don't pay the type of attention we would like.

00pump wrote: Ye, end of the day, to become a GP you need to have a brain on you. However, all doctors carry trials out on us, whether we like to believe this or not... They say try this, let me know how you feel, let’s see if this works, if not we can try xyz.

Now because they don't get as many guys walking in the door to help construct a steroid cycle, they don't really have their own database and results coming back from bloods with their clients.

That’s why rather be open with your doctor, explain exactly what you doing, and say you coming there for them to monitor you. No better person than a doctor if something goes wrong, they know exactly what tests to carry out. And this way they are building up their own database of what seems to work and what side effects to expect at what dose.

I have so much respect for doctors, it’s just about finding one that is truly interested in you, they see how many patients a day and its more people that come in the door the more money they can pocket so quite a few of them don't pay the type of attention we would like.

00pump, a doc very close to me always talks about this, since the government has limited them to what the may as per consultation, they have to crank out patients through their doors to make ends meet like they did before...

Says he misses the old days where he could afford to talk to somebody for half an hour to an hour and know everything about them. Nowadays its all about getting the problem the person has solved as quick as possible... and then next patient...

Price regulation in the medical industry only ever really puts the patient to a disadvantage... yes there is skelms... but a lot of them really got hurt by government intervention...

and then there is the medical aids, they are most probably some of the biggest demons to befall society...

@thunderbeast medical aids unfortunatly a neccessary evil. Well, I think goverment have preposed to allow 10% more med students to get into med schools around SA as we have a shortage but don't know if this will be benificial or not for us?