Performance Enhancing Drugs (PED)

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16 Sep 2011 21:24 - 16 Sep 2011 21:55 #76202 by Oupiel
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Hey everyone, haven't been here for a long while, but I know most here are "Muscle Heads"

Over the past years, my goals have changed from bodybuilding to multi-day mountain bike "races".
And yes, I'm using PEDs to help me get to the end of some big events.
No, I'm not a contender to win anything. I just do it for me.

I'm looking for your thoughts on mine:

Front load
Oral T 40mg /day
Test Prop 400mg for 1 week

Main Cycle
Equi 350mg /week
Test en 300mg /week

Clen to help lean down - extra weight that doesn't move me is a bit pointless.

Reasons:

AAS to aid recovery during training
Increase red blood cell count
cut body fat

Clen to help cut more fat.
Not sure if I should use clen during the event.
I haven't used clen before, not sure how it may help or hinder my performance.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

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Last edit: 16 Sep 2011 21:55 by Oupiel.

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16 Sep 2011 21:32 #76203 by CHAPEL
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cut the prop.. dont need it.. clen may kill your cardio/preformance.. look at venteze, similar but legal and makes cardio easier. And what pct you running?

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

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Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.
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16 Sep 2011 21:43 #76204 by Oupiel
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Are you saying just Equi with no test?
Will look into the venteze

PCT No1 - www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/info...9-post-cycle-therapy

thanks

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16 Sep 2011 21:45 #76205 by CHAPEL
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nooo meant cut the test prop front load.. you still have the testen.. i just know bugger all about cycling so don't know about the doses but i would up the test.. There are a few cyclists on here though who will advise..

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

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Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.
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17 Sep 2011 17:23 #76250 by STUARTF
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Why don't you try EPO, renowned to increase red blood count 10 fold.

Also clen can cause cramping so be aware of this before taking long rides. Possibly supplement it with magnesium or taurine. It will also push your heartrate way up so this is something you will have to monitor.

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18 Sep 2011 09:10 #76262 by ABC01
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I dont know how long you want to run the cycle for. Im not too sure about running longer esters for cycling. My opinion is to maybe run the longer esters during your strength training phase (long time before your racing season). During this phase you can focus nicely on strength training in gym with hitting those longer miles on the bike. Also use this time to get that body fat in check.

During racing season i reckon shorter esters is the way to go. Recently worked out a test prop/winni/proviron 12 week cycle for a friend. In my experience winni does ALLOT for strenth on the bike. It does not effect my joints much but it may be different for you. I also cant touch clen. It screws up my cardio like you wont believe. For my friend though it actually improves his endurence well. I reckon its because of the clen effect in opening the airways and thus you have more efficient oxygen use (opposite effect for me :unsure: )

Start this cycle so your last pin falls on the day you do your most important race.

This is my opinion
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19 Sep 2011 07:27 #76282 by crawler
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My money, is on winstrol for cycling

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19 Sep 2011 09:52 - 19 Sep 2011 09:53 #76289 by Oupiel
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ABC01 wrote: I dont know how long you want to run the cycle for. Im not too sure about running longer esters for cycling. My opinion is to maybe run the longer esters during your strength training phase (long time before your racing season). During this phase you can focus nicely on strength training in gym with hitting those longer miles on the bike. Also use this time to get that body fat in check.

During racing season i reckon shorter esters is the way to go. Recently worked out a test prop/winni/proviron 12 week cycle for a friend. In my experience winni does ALLOT for strenth on the bike. It does not effect my joints much but it may be different for you. I also cant touch clen. It screws up my cardio like you wont believe. For my friend though it actually improves his endurence well. I reckon its because of the clen effect in opening the airways and thus you have more efficient oxygen use (opposite effect for me :unsure: )

Start this cycle so your last pin falls on the day you do your most important race.

This is my opinion


Working on a 12 week cycle.
Been a bit concerned about winstrol, but never tried it.

appreciate your advice.

Guess I will need to just try for myself and learn.
Was thinking on running Clen during the week and dropping it over the weekends if it has a negative impact on my heart rate or causes cramps, etc.

With Winstrol, as its fast acting, I can drop it and get over the sides fast, if I get sore joints.

But all this "learning" will need to wait a bit, till I get a gap.
I don't wan't to pay school fees during a big ride.

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19 Sep 2011 13:08 #76331 by Ondier
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Hey ou grote :-D

I've read on thecyclehub.co.za that the guys are using Tridenosen. Maybe try that first before going on AAS "cycles"? (yes pun intended) :-)

It seems like you just want extra woema to finish the bigger races? You should get it with this.

Tridenosen is a vasilidator and multi vitamin, and you can inject it with a slinpin. There are allot of posts on here about TRidenosen. And it will give you about 50 - 70 rides per bottle, depending on your dosage.

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19 Sep 2011 13:12 #76334 by Oupiel
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Thanks.

Tridenosen is a new one on me.

I will do some homework.

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