Tren or deca

Hi guys what will you recommend using with test cyp and anapolan tren 300mg/w or deca 550mg/w.The tren is gonna be more expensive for the cycle but is a stronger steriod thnx.

I personally prefer Tren any day over Deca..
Gives me much better results! Tren E @ 1ml twice a week.
But thats me personally!

How many cycles have you dont prior to this?

Hi done 4 cycles before but crappy gear mostly from nomad.But now i will be usin PGW and LP gear so the tren and anapolon will be a first thnx.

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/2-anabo...n/69461-tren-or-deca

Dont forget to keep your test levels higher than the tren.

Post a breakdown of the course you are looking to do (Dosages, timeline etc) And your diet

Hi
Week 1-12 test cyp250 x3/week
week 1-12 tren a 150 x2/week
week 1-4 anapolan 50 50mg/100mg ed
letrozole 5 drops ed
week 12-16 clomid 50-100 ed
week 12-16 nolvadex 60 mg ed
will see at week 8 how it goes maybe do winny 50mg ed for 4 weeks
Diet, chicken tuna steak / whey protien 250/300 ed
carbs, oats potato brown rice 400g ed
thnx

Add HCG to that, start the Nolva 1 week after the clomid, Clomid run only for a week at 100mg a day.

Are you running Tren A or Tren E? As Tren A, as you have said above, is 80mg/ml, Tren E is 150mg/ml

With this course, i would follow Doctari's PCT, as Tren does shut you down quite hard.
You will need to wait around 30 days (I could be a little wrong, i think its 36 days) after your last shot of Tren/Test to start your PCT, else you will be wasting your time with the PCT. (read www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/5-post-...p-and-pct-start-time for more info)

Your diet, as you dsay above is 2800 calories, so... does that mean you weigh around 65-70kg's?

Something that could be a little better...
Run Test C and Tren for 10 wewks and then switch to test prop only from week 11 - 12
Then PCT Starts on week 17 roughly

As 00pump said... definitely add HCG, from like week 5 probably @500iu a week

It sounds like you need to do proper work on your diet first, else, rather give me the money, as you wasting it here (Just saying)

Hi will be using tren e sorry, my weight is 83 kg will lift my calories up to 4000 and my protien over 300g/day thnx.

salamander wrote: Hi
Week 1-12 test cyp250 x3/week
week 1-12 tren a 150 x2/week
week 1-4 anapolan 50 50mg/100mg ed
letrozole 5 drops ed
week 12-16 clomid 50-100 ed
week 12-16 nolvadex 60 mg ed
will see at week 8 how it goes maybe do winny 50mg ed for 4 weeks
Diet, chicken tuna steak / whey protien 250/300 ed
carbs, oats potato brown rice 400g ed
thnx

Ur pct starting times are wrong

Test Cyp @ 3x 12 = 36 days ( 5 weeks )
Tren E @ 3x 10.5 = 31.5 Days ( 4.5 weeks )

So u should start pct roughly 5 weeks after last test cyp shot. But this leave 5 weeks which can be counter productive and even "catabolic".

So u can then use sum test prop and winny in this time frame dropping the prop roughly a week before starting pct and the orals a day before.

Plus u can't just jump from 2800 cals to 4000 cals. U have to increase them over a time span by roughly 400 cals at a time

Well post up your diet cos I would love to see the 2800 calories u are eating..

Hi my diet will look like this

morning 6o clock protien shake half = 25 g prot
morning 8o clock 6 egg whites + 1 yellow = 36 g prot
+ 120g of oats with honey

11o clock tuna + noodles and spoon mayo lite

1o clok 2x chicken breasts 1 cub brown rice
+ veggy

3o clock whey protien + oats 100g + raisins
6o clock 300g steak potato veggy
90 clock whey protien full 50 g prot

I try to keep it simple hard for me to eat and prepare during work any help on this diet will be helpfull thnx.

salamander, if you are going to use all that money on a course, rather get hold of DJ, your diet is lacking in protein, what are the weights of your food?, carbs are all over the show. Timing is essential, take the money you spending on gear and pay for a proper diet.
Diet 70% Training 20% Juice/Supplements 10%
I have used alot of gear in my time and NO results experienced like when I started Dj'd diet and program.

6 egg whites is 18g of protein...
Cassien and Fat Free Cream Cheese is before bed... not Whey!!

Bud, in all honesty, you need to get alot more wise with your diet... Mesure EVERYTHING, and dont use such vague figures. This is good critism and not running you down! Dont bother starting your course, without having your diet sorted... Have a look at Doeiting 101 on the Forum... to get your diet right!!

And then change your cycle accordsing to what advice i have given you above.

Hi DJ is it possible for you to give me a better diet seems my diet is not up to standard for the course,i am gonna do will appreciate it very much thnx.

Send Admin an email in Contact Us and he will send you DJ's details.

Email me admin,he will forward you to me...