Grow Even When Off Steroids!

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10 Jul 2011 10:14 #70372 by AvR
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Hey guys, I found this link on the net:

www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/dharkam/g...hout-steroids-01.htm

It's a bit of a long read but interesting, you could just skip to the last section of the second page if you don't feel like reading it all. What do think about it?

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10 Jul 2011 10:35 #70375 by admin
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The proper way to grow when off steroids is to have a good diet, training and enough rest.

One must take a break every now and then and you don't need chemicals all the time to make progress.

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10 Jul 2011 10:38 #70379 by Pumped
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I agree with admin when I'm off juice I have twice the normal rest time I would have when I'm juicing.

You guys might think I'm crazy,but i know how to achieve greatness.

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10 Jul 2011 12:09 #70385 by AvR
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@admin, that sure makes sense. To be on chemicals permenantly does not sound like a good idea.

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10 Jul 2011 12:09 #70386 by Eidolon
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The second part of the article contains an interesting reference to Pentoxifylline.

Pentoxifylline will still reduce muscle protein catabolism through an impairment of the proteasome activity.

Some studies have shown that Pentoxifylline and Amrinone prevent the depression of anabolism in skeletal muscles during illness. I would not count too much on this effect in the post-steroid period.


Pentoxifylline is available locally as Trental, amongst others, as a S2 med. It is a peripheral vasodilator, which improves blood flow to the arms and the legs.

I'm not suggesting that anyone take it. Just found it interesting, because my sister takes it for poor circulation to her hands.

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10 Jul 2011 12:53 #70388 by Eidolon
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Hmmm...It seems Pentoxifylline may also be useful in liver regeneration:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21037437

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10 Jul 2011 13:49 #70394 by AvR
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Eidolon wrote: Hmmm...It seems Pentoxifylline may also be useful in liver regeneration:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21037437


lol, not 101 Dalmatians but 101 liver patients...

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10 Jul 2011 18:59 #70412 by ice-rip
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he states to avoid hcg coz it causes gyno. Hmmm

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10 Jul 2011 19:30 #70414 by 00pump
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hCG can cause gyno yes, as it raises estrogen. That's why when doc recommends aggressive amounts he uses aromasin with it, not only for that reason of course.. I can tolerate 250iu every 3rd day with nova and not get gyno signs and I'm very sensitive.

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