turinabol

Howzit guys - thx 4 a great site and all the info. Im new here and am just wondering if some1 can help with the following. Im not a big user but have tried a few things before. I used Turinabol for about 3 months a while ago and it gave me exactly what i wanted - gained about 6-7kg with no increase of bodyfat etc. However lost 99% of it in the 6months after stopping - what did i do wrong? I did use Kessar for a bit afterwards. Am 45yrs old, back to about 90kg without changing my diet or training. ????????????

Hence the reason all you put on was water, hence the reason you lost everything... Hence the reason someone of your age should never take a single compound like that but stick to testosterone only, also your inability to use a proper PCT at your age has caused you to lose those results too..

Look at our cycle section and read the beginner cycle, try that cycle and the PCT linked too it.

Thanks00pump, that says a lot however it seems that "all" the testo give mayor water retention (not really what im after) is there anything that does not do that or will it help if i do a PROPER pct after using turinabol again?

Test + T-bol cycle and add in Adex to keep estrogen and water at bay. You'll show good results. You can also use some Proviron if water is a really big concern.

Proper PCT in my mind is Clomid, Kessar and HCG

00pump wrote: Hence the reason someone of your age should never take a single compound like that but stick to testosterone only

I do apologise for the for my stupidity, but I do not understand what you mean by this statement.
I understand the single compound rule, but why testosterone only. Unless he is a virgin user????!!!!

Ontong simply because he doesn't know the first thing about steroids, to do a TBol only cycle at his age with already suppressed tesosterone levels, and then using a few Kessar tabs as a PCT, simply shows he doesn't know much at all..

The second reason I stated not to use the Dbol is due to his desire 'no increase in bodyfat' I would then guess that would be water weight, etc..

The testosterone at that age, would not only work wonders but would make his whole body feel better.. Even extend the testosterone to 14 weeks, but use the comprehensive PCT, hCG / Nolva / Clomid for recovery.

But as Vega said the TBol to kickstart is also a great idea in replacement for the Dbol, much more effective in what his desires are for this cycle..

Another thing, we not all jack rabbit. And I find the older we get the more 'natural phases of our bodily development progresses' and with that majority of people start to suffer blood pressure, prostate, heart, etc..

I find the older we get the less toxic our cycles should be the more 'natural' it should be.. There is exceptions to this rule but if you looking for a healthy mid life cycle this would be what I would go for - the TBol, test only with some Adex and a full blown PCT..

Again, anyone can do what they want, I just worry for people and would rather have something like test only and if everything returns normal from the cycle then look at adding to this next time..

Hi 00pump, Thx and thats exactly why i joined this forum because yes i dont know a lot about steroids apart from what you get on the net and that can be VERY confusing as 1 site will say A and the next one say B. Im just trying to get some info as to what i can use that wont blow me up like a balloon or kill me without trying to get to this HUGE person that wants to compete or suffer from some "midlife crisis". I was just wondering if there is something out there that is mild and that would give me a small "push" but i get the idea that is only HUGE and blown-up or nothing. Anyway, thx for all the info and maybe i'll ma just stay they way i am cos if i cant find the info i need here (trying to learn / understand etc) or on all the different sites then maybe just stay away. Anyway thx.

Eh? I think you missing what I'm saying, use some test only with adex and you good to go.. diet will keep you lean with lean mass gains only, dj can give you a diet for a small fee but well worth it.. you the perfect age to appreciate testosterone and feel great on it.. try a cycle of 500mg testosterone cypionate and get arimadex and your pct stuff and you good to go..

Also no way saying you going through a mid life crisis, if anything you doing things the right way, research and trying to get an understanding.. I'm just nervous to tell anyone in late 30s + about exotic cycles in case of side effects.. after this cycle and it comes back all positive you can add primobolan to that which is so mild on the body, but the basis of all cycles must be testosterone and I feel the older we get the more so this is the case.. when we in our early 20s recovery is easy, 30's getting harder and 40's even more so until you get to the point that the healthiest way to live is on testosterone therapy... ask what ever you like and we all will try help.. but safety first

nic007, listen don't loss heart - with me hitting 40 shortly we and eveyone at this age we gotta do things differently.
00pump is 100% correct we cannot afford to do things incorrectly, but rather learn from those with the more experience and no-how.
Stick around bro and you can learn alot from those here! Ps I still do!!

00pump if you substitute a dbol kickstart to a cycle with Tbol, how long should you run the Tbol and at what dosage? Doesnt Tbol take a while to kick in?

Thx Ontong, im just VERY confused. I am looking for a mild product or cycle that wont inflate and deflate me like a balloon. I DO NOT want to have fast and ferious results but rather slow and steady gains that will result in between 5 and 10 kg over a long (12weeks) period of time and then to keep most of it aftewards. Am i unrealistic??

nic007 wrote: Thx Ontong, im just VERY confused. I am looking for a mild product or cycle that wont inflate and deflate me like a balloon. I DO NOT want to have fast and ferious results but rather slow and steady gains that will result in between 5 and 10 kg over a long (12weeks) period of time and then to keep most of it aftewards. Am i unrealistic??

In my opinion I would say that is unrealistic and the reason why is that:
1. It depends 100% on your diet
2. your training and years of experience with regards to weight training
3. you need to be patient as it takes time to build muscle( even on gear you really have to work hard provided your training and diet is in check)
The advice 00pump has given you is correct stick to test first followed by a good PCT - that's what I am doing currently - and you might surprise yourself with some good results.

nic007 wrote: Thx Ontong, im just VERY confused. I am looking for a mild product or cycle that wont inflate and deflate me like a balloon. I DO NOT want to have fast and ferious results but rather slow and steady gains that will result in between 5 and 10 kg over a long (12weeks) period of time and then to keep most of it aftewards. Am i unrealistic??

NPP 150mg + 200mg Test Prop EOD for 12weeks, Doctari's PCT + HCG throughout - 5 Kg's you will probably keep. Leave the rest.