high blood pressure

I wanted to find out your view on what AAS and what fat burners are less likely to cause high blood pressure. Are all testosterones (ethanate, prop, cyp) the same in terms of increasing ones blood pressure? What about EQ, tren, prim, masterone? Also - alot of the fat burners contain alot of caffeine which shoots up ones blood pressure. does all fat burners not increase your heartrate and therefore your blood pressure?

the background to my questions is that ive done 1 cycle per year for the past 6 years. First year was test ethanate only, 2 - test E and deca and 3-6 test E and Eq. I always run the Test e and EQ in a 20 week cycle. on cycle my blood pressure goes to 150/90 which is really high. off cycle it returns to a normal 120/80. i am just concerned that having a prolonged blood pressure (20 weeks) over a number of years can have a negative long term effect. I am currently planning my next cycle, and would like to minimize this. your advice and insights would be appreciated - thanks

1.82m.
88kg
8% bf
6 cycles (see above)
Diet very clean as i am a model. I make sure i get the protein level each other, sometime lacking on the carb. fats i supplement with Flaxseed oil mainly.
Goal: 90-92kg and drop bf to 7/6%

Blood pressure is a tricky subject and nobody truly understands it 100%, so many people get diagnosed and cannot pin point where the problem actually is.. Most of the time, its related to the lungs, heart, kidenys and then theres plaque..

Long term steroid use, can have a very negative effect on chelestrol and this can be a contributory factor, but in essense its the Protein 'Sythesis' of the anabolics that I believe is the main problem.. Most people I know on a steroid cycle 'leaks a small amount of protein'. I don't have studies for this just my own body and that of a few people I know.. The other thing that you must bring in account and I believe this is the culprit for most temporary increases in BP and that is lack of estrogen control and that is why you find substances like Primo having 0 to mild effect on our BP..

I would say the best thing to do is keep and eye on it and also do dip stick checks just to see how your kidneys are handling the cycle.. I would also suggest lower dosed cycles if you are worrying about this and I would stay away from harsh anabolics like, dbol and anadrol. I find Var very mind as well Primo but I find even Tbol catches it toll up on me..

About cycles currently I am doing the following.

350mg EQ a week
200mg Test
500mg Primo
0.5mg Adex per day
60mg Proviron

The system is great for cutting and I'm getting harder and harder thanks to DJ's Diet + good training and cardio..

I started off around 12% bodyfat I am now around 8/9% and my weight has just stayed the same, it did increase for awhile then drop down a little once I bumped up the cardio.. So in essence I have put on a few kgs of muscle and lost bodyfat..

I think you ared right 00pump. Estrogen control, healthy eating, cardio. My cholesterol came down on cycle - by 1.6 points - so also BP and i was averaging 1-2g's of AAS/week at that time.

jack, I can't tell you what the 20 min cardio a day has done to my BP, it has dropped by 20+ points while on a cycle! amazing.. my nephrologist said if I were to become super fit, aka, be able to complete one of these cycle races I might not even need to take BP medication again.. And whats better is I can also drink coffe and it still stays low, that used to hammer my BP through the roof.

Hey pump , you said one can do dip stick checks to see how your kidneys handle a cycle ?

now this might be a stupid question , but can you please explain how it is done , i have never heard of it , and it would be nice to know ?

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thanks 00pump for the reply. i think you correct with the estrogen control. also like your cycle, im doing similiar but without the primo and adex.

SLEON wrote: Hey pump , you said one can do dip stick checks to see how your kidneys handle a cycle ?

now this might be a stupid question , but can you please explain how it is done , i have never heard of it , and it would be nice to know ?

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It just shows if you leaking protein or maybe blood.. just urinate on the stick and hold it up and compare the color if it has abnormalities to what clean healthy mark is go get it checked out with more accurate test.