tren or deca?

Now this makes me very happy that I registered on this board thanks for the advice now I know what to do just to bad that I already paid for everything before doing research will keep it though until I feel ready.

good choise bro , like i said before , i wish i found this forum before i started using steroids , a lot of okes think they can just take tis roid and that roid and boom , they are big and cut , without propper dieting and training and knowledge on what to take , and how much to take

i know because i did this , but fortunately i found this forum , and have learned a lot , and i still hve a lot to learn , so stick around do some reading and ask some questions , and when you do decide to do a cycle , you will be well prepared , and see the propper result

Good luck

00pump wrote: 6 weeks means the drugs have just started to work in your body then you stopped them

PCT please refer to our article section, www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/info...9-post-cycle-therapy

Hmmmm, I must remember to look at the article section again... I keep forgetting its been updated.

Koe007 wrote: Tren is awesome, the best injectable ive used by far, but definitely a home wrecker as Vega so nicely put it. Moody, nightmares, evil thoughts, harsh on kidneys as well. Blood pressure, liver toxic. Only use for Contest prep, else I would rather use NPP. NPP Rocks, especially at week 4 for me.

I think this explains it pretty well. I'm quite an unpleasant doos when on Tren.

if tren is that bad, what would be a better alternative cycle to tren with the same results?

TSG: A cycle with results like tren without the sides like tren (not a novice cycle / more of an advance cycle) 500mg test, 700mg EQ + 400mg Primo + 40-60mg Proviron a day... That cycle will have road maps over your arms with vascularity.

I must file that one

Not a novice cycle....... another addition to your phone's dictionary

TSG: A cycle with results like tren without the sides like tren (not a novice cycle / more of an advance cycle) 500mg test, 700mg EQ + 400mg Primo + 40-60mg Proviron a day... That cycle will have road maps over your arms with vascularity.

Well said Pump, safe quality cycle there, add a clean diet and thats a recipe for success.

Tren is an evil mistress , i must admit i handle it fine, but that by and large comes from my cycle history, i can tell when i am being pms because of what i am taking. i also suffer insomnia so the night sweats dont deter me much.

that said you need a level head to use tren and everything the peeps have said rings true, evil thoughts etc etc.

i love tren and use it in almost 90% of my cycles , i must admit i suffer more on the long acting than the acetate .

in the end cycles should be a positive addition as far as possible in ones life , helping boosting confidence, drive, focus and libido. when the cycle starts to dictate my happiness and those around me its just not worth it imho

in your case i would stay away from tren for now

goodluck

I got angry at a spring bed once and slept on the floor while on deca...it are not my friend. I am always very calm and collected, but deca....damn..
lol
Never used tren but have seen its results. It is awesome.
I do love the eq tho. No *evil thoughts*. lol

Regards

Morning guys now I have a new question my trainer told me that he does not want me to use Tren 100 as it is not right for me he would rather start me with Nomadlab Deca 100 and Noma Test Combo 300 also a Whey Protein and Crea pump pre workout please give me feed back if this is advisable.I will first gym for about another 3 months hard before I use it.

Turner wrote: Morning guys now I have a new question my trainer told me that he does not want me to use Tren 100 as it is not right for me he would rather start me with Nomadlab Deca 100 and Noma Test Combo 300 also a Whey Protein and Crea pump pre workout please give me feed back if this is advisable.I will first gym for about another 3 months hard before I use it.

You are a newbie. Test only. And please leave the Nomad kak for other people.

yes I am a newbie so then tell me if not Nomad what then and please tell me why not nomad.

Just use the search function, Nomad is inconsistent, underdosed. PGW (Precision Gear Works) and LP is all I use.

bru best advice is tell your trainer to fuck off,what do you need him for witht the internet you can search every exercise and watch videos on correct form,most of the trainers at my gym are in good shape but when i watch them training clients i feel sick,they do the same boring fucked up shit day after day and they dont even help with form,they stand there counting reps and checking chicks its pathetic for R300 odd rand for an hour and a half session, :blink: thats almost a bottle of test each time u decide to rent that monkey to watch u do fuckall

chemically enhanced wrote: bru best advice is tell your trainer to fuck off,what do you need him for witht the internet you can search every exercise and watch videos on correct form,most of the trainers at my gym are in good shape but when i watch them training clients i feel sick,they do the same boring fucked up shit day after day and they dont even help with form,they stand there counting reps and checking chicks its pathetic for R300 odd rand for an hour and a half session, :blink: thats almost a bottle of test each time u decide to rent that monkey to watch u do fuckall

Agreed- The trainers in our gym counts the reps of their trainees but they don't look or care about form- just check and flex themselves in the mirrors the whole time.
Disgusted :pinch:

I would walk around all day and help guys with their form.

Just want to add I had my first session with him last night and he did everything with me we did back and he went through everything step by step and explained it so that was a change I know what you guys talk about had a trainer at my old gym and that's why I left there he was no fucking help what so ever but the new ones different.

Turner wrote: Just want to add I had my first session with him last night and he did everything with me we did back and he went through everything step by step and explained it so that was a change I know what you guys talk about had a trainer at my old gym and that's why I left there he was no fucking help what so ever but the new ones different.

Thats good to hear. Keep him till you are comfortable. This is a lifestyle so do research yourself as well. JayCutler.com eg. Plenty instructional vids there. Youtube is flooded with DorianYates - blood and guts - training sessions etc. MuscularDevelopment has loads as well.

Another guy who likes teaching and explaining is KaiGreene. VERY informative. Join their FaceBook pages as well for updates.

Spend one weekend surfing the basics. Can safe you loads to spend on PGW.

sha okes im a personal trainer !!! But i hear u guys ,, i have become a better PT because of this site.. the diet tips and tricks and the gear advise is second to none ..ur pt mate should drop everything while training you and inspire you and motivate you ... if he doesnt and he just sitts on his phone .. get rid of him point blank .. u can save the money up and use it on supps and a clean diet

Zimbulk88 wrote: sha okes im a personal trainer !!! But i hear u guys ,, i have become a better PT because of this site.. the diet tips and tricks and the gear advise is second to none ..ur pt mate should drop everything while training you and inspire you and motivate you ... if he doesnt and he just sitts on his phone .. get rid of him point blank .. u can save the money up and use it on supps and a clean diet

Good to hear again! The trainer should push you where you wont go by yourself. Spot on heavy lifts etc. Diet, technique - the works. If they are the ones who start you off on 20 mins treadmill/Bike, then go through the motions and talk kak the whole time you are wasting your money.
If he sounds like DSorian Yates's training partner in "Blood and Guts" you have it made.
"C'mmon Yates! SQueeeeeeeeze!!"



Hahaha! Love it!

Found this a very helpful site when I started out...

www.exrx.net/index.html

dorian yates was the boss and still is !! can u imagine if all pt's shouted like that ... magic great post jackrabbit.

Yeah, i am also a pt. Started recently. As i got a 8 to 5, training after hours is a way of helping the up and commers. I never got the right advice and its my way of giving back to the sport. It changed my life for the better and if i can help some guys just get to their goals(as most ppl wil never reach their without help) why not.

I train with some of them. All of them want to look like me,when they say that i laugh and say thanks, but just say if they work hard, listen to me,and follow their diets, nothing is imposible.(but at the same time think, omg,i have soooo far to go still)

I dont get 300 bucks an hour,,,,,damn, that would be awesome. hahaha
If ppl could really afford that. I would feel to bad taking so much money from some1 that is there to reach goals. omg.lol
Some trainers are shit, agreed. Have seen them. I think for every 5 shit ones, theres 1 that really wants to help.

Regards

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