Some Help and Advice please - HGH or Alternative.

Hi Guy's,

Hope everyone is doing well.
I want to ask for some advice please. I've done a lot of reading and asked
some people and almost all the feedback has been very positive and recomendations
came high to run HGH.

My Scenario. I got a lung infection a while back that put me out of training,
got it during a triathlon, cold went on to bronchitis and resulted in a lung
infection. I was on a couple of cycles of Kortizone which really bloated me,
made me fat. I never had a issue dropping weight and never been fat. Now back
to training for 3 months i still find it very hard to drop the flab. I don't think
my diet is too bad, can alway's improve i suppose. I do take Thermo fat burners now
as well but it still is tough.

My Stats. 28, 1.89m, 96kg and now around 25% body fat.
I do some weight training but have been murdering the cardio in between for the last
3 months. I alternate between interval and high intensity every day at least 40-60 min
and i swim for about 30minutes or 700m every day with it.

Is it advisable to run HGH? I've been told that NOMAD's 10vials powder/10vials water is
not that sensitive as everyone make out and as long as you only mix what you need but keep all
of it refrigerated you and your gear should be 100%. I was thinking of running 4iu's daily
for 5day's for about 4 months, but the cost looks insane! Is there another alternative to
HGH for good fat loss and to get some kick start and definition back? I'm not looking for
a overnight quick fix, know it does not exist but i am looking for something that will help
a lot.

Currently this is how my day goes.
2 x Oxy Elite pro caps + 1 CLA tab.
Gym
Evox - Muscle Meal MR shake or some Oats.
Small tub of fat free Yogurt
Evox - Lean Protein shake
Fruit - Apple or Nartjie
1 Oxy Elite pro cap + 1 CLA tab + 1 Multi Vit.
1 Can of Tuna in water with some Tomato sauce and 4 pro-vitas
Evox - Lean Protein shake
Fruit again
Chicken / Stake/ fish with green veggies
1 CLA tab
Througout the day i'll snack on some lean biltong bites if i'm a
bit peckish and i'll have about 2-3 cups of tea or coffe without
sugar with a splash of milk and about 2-3l of water a day.
My portions is normal to small, i don't over eat.

Any suggestions on what i can take and if i should go with HGH.
I've read up alot on my PCT's as well and know
that it's more important than your actual cycle, but want to establish what is good
first so i can work out the half life etc and get the correct stuff.

I also got some NOMAD cyp 250 and some D-bols just before i got the infection, i want
to run this later with something else but want to drop the flab first, aiming for 12%
Body Fat before i run this.

I don't want to waste anyones time and apologies for all the info, but your help is
greatly appreciated and i'd rather ask than F*&^ myself up, you only have 1 body!


Thanks a million,
Kindest Regards.

Hi bud!
you are bound to get ALLOT of flack for your diet and the way you laid it out here, are all those foods just for meal 1?

I would not consider doing GH if I was you, get your diet in check first. This is your foundation! you could contact DJ who gives custom diets at a charge!

still following mine and going strong!

Holy Crap,

No, tha't my whole day's eating but i see what you mean.
I'm on the road alot, my reason for opting for the Lean Protein shakes.

Time wise its more like this.

5:00 am - 2 x Oxy Elite pro caps + 1 CLA tab.
5:00-7:00- Gym
8:00 - Evox - Muscle Meal MR shake or some Oats.
10:00 - Small tub of fat free Yogurt
12:00 - Evox - Lean Protein shake
13:00 - Fruit - Apple or Nartjie
1 Oxy Elite pro cap + 1 CLA tab + 1 Multi Vit.
14:00 - 1 Can of Tuna in water with some Tomato sauce and 4 pro-vitas
15:30 - Evox - Lean Protein shake
16:30 - Fruit again
20:00 - Chicken / Stake/ fish with green veggies
1 CLA tab
21:00 - 22:30 - SLEEP.

In between if i'm a bit peckish i'd have 2 x 3-4cm long piece of biltong stick,
really small but i try to scew it for long so i think i'm eating lots, seems to
work.

Thanks for the reply, i'll look DJ up and give him a shout.

Thanks Again,
Kind Regards.

U are realying to much on shakes and pills and shit buddy.

The cla's and so on are fine, but the shakes u are gona have to cut back on.
The only shakes i take when dieting is pre and post and thats whey shakes. Skip the MRP's.
MRP's are moslty for when ppl dont have time to make food,(best excuse i can think off without calling them lazy).
Skip the milk...skip the fruit. Get multi vitamins.... Leave the GH for now....
U need to work on ur diet alot buddy. DJ will know best hey. Go read Dieting 101 first..

Click the link bud. Educate
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/10-diet...on/56925-dieting-101
Regards

Also on your dieet, you should be eating more, lots more. You are a big guy. Your 10:00 is your first real meal for the day,replace the shakes with that and add some good fats and good carbs depending on the time of the day. But I am guessing you dont want to build muscle?

You should be getting lots of nice info from the stickies in the dieting and contest prep section. Enjoy

Great, thanks for the input.

I take my words back from "my diet is not too bad i think" to O.K, it's SHIT.

Will def read up, i tried reading up on dieting but every site i found just looked
very scammy. Will read on the link you sent me.

Thanks Again.

Too many shakes... Not enough Whole Meals
AND you need to start weighing your food bud!!

Some of this and some of that is going to get you nowhere!!

Do a little research and come back with your new proposed eating plan!

Thanks Molt3n and Mr_SA,

Will do, over weekend i think i'll go and buy measuring stuff from
the local tupperwear store instead of getting the Supplements.

Thing is i don't mind building muscle, i know more muscle will help
eat the fat quicker as well as your body needs more fuel, it just irritates
me when you build some muscle but no difference in the fat, i think maybe
i must also relax a bit, maybe i'm expecting a bit too much in a short 3 month
period. But clearly my Diet is Crap.

Thanks Guy's.
I'll search DJ and ask him if he can do a eating plan for me with 3 alternatives or so,
lay it out like a Kid Story so i can follow it to the T.

mjority u can contact me from the contact us tab at the top,drop admin a mail and he will forward it to me... my diets are simple but u will eat steak twice a day,chicken twice a day and 3-4 shakes a day, so each day has variety,i am not gonna make u eat chicken 6 meals a day...simple and basics work the best... at the end of the day the more muscle u have the fat u burn but it shows u that putting on "muscle" means that u are putting on muscle but fat at the same time,so u need to change your diet up completely add in cardio and change your training aswell and the fat will come off...once the fat is down to a decent level at about 12% then look at adding in steroids and gh....

also get yourself a digital scale and measure your food out,that way u can be 100% accurate with your calorie intake....takes the guess work out of things....

Awesome,

Thanks a million,
Just sent a post on your diet link sent to me.
I'll drop admin a mail and ask to pass onto you.

Thanks again,
Some light i can see at the end, finally.

Mjorty wrote: Awesome,

Thanks a million,
Just sent a post on your diet link sent to me.
I'll drop admin a mail and ask to pass onto you.

Thanks again,
Some light i can see at the end, finally.

Best move you made. DJ will sort you out chop-chop.