BIG MASS BUILDING CYCLE

wes
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16 Feb 2011 15:03 #61139 by wes

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HI

I AM 192
107KG
12%bodyfat-

starting with testen 300,tren 150

test 600mg a week
tren 300mg 2 week
mass gaining dieet

have done a few cycles before with stanazol an test suspension but not with proper dieet and training and still got some pretty good results!
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF MY IOL BASED CYCLE??
ENJOY

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Fakey_AK
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16 Feb 2011 16:54 #61145 by Fakey_AK

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Lol.... when i saw the topic " BIG MASS BUILDING CYCLE " I was expecting 2g test, 1g tren, 150mg anaps ed, 1g eq, 10iu's growth.......

Hey bud

Seeing as this is ur first "proper" cycle, test only will do. Also get ur diet sorted too as thats the most important part. Also read up on the pct thread.

Oh Yeah whats 192? ur age?

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wes
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16 Feb 2011 18:07 #61150 by wes

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hahahahahahah no bro i am still a student!no money for that kind of test and hgh!!!!!!
and jAP i am 192 y.o!neah its my height bro,sorry should have made it more clear!
ja i am doing pregnal PCT!

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roidolone
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16 Feb 2011 19:30 #61158 by roidolone

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lol," BIG MASS BUILDING CYCLE "

@spike: copy & paste that infamous first/last words of yours

The day i stop training is the day i die!

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00pump
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17 Feb 2011 05:31 #61172 by 00pump

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How old are you.

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wes
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17 Feb 2011 06:23 #61176 by wes

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@ roidolone=your arrogance offends me!

I AM 22 YEARS OLD,AND I THINK ITS PRETTY BIG CYCLE FOR SOME ONE AT M AGE OOpump??

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Koe007
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17 Feb 2011 06:36 #61178 by Koe007

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Wes, Id drop the Tren as you are still new to steroids and Tren is very harsh on the kidneys. Equipoise would be great but for at least 15 weeks 350mg/week, What length do you plan on running this cycle for and do you have a PCT planned and good diet to match?

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17 Feb 2011 06:44 #61179 by 00pump

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Yes it is, and as Koe007 suggested, leave the Tren until later in your cycle future. You will get explosive gains if you do Test + EQ for around 14/15 weeks. I would increase the dose though to 1 and half ml of PGW EQ per week, 350mg is a little mild.

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wes
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17 Feb 2011 06:44 #61180 by wes

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koeOO7,i have done tren before for 3weeks it was tren ace.now doing tren e,so planning about 4 weeks depending on the kidneys.will be keeping a close watch on it!

as far as my diet goes,ask my good frendy for one he is a bodybuilder he actualy won junior Mr universe!so think my diet is good!!

PCT=I am gona do pregnalor clomid!still waiting for response from my suplier

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Fakey_AK
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17 Feb 2011 06:47 #61181 by Fakey_AK

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wes wrote: koeOO7,i have done tren before for 3weeks it was tren ace.now doing tren e,so planning about 4 weeks depending on the kidneys.will be keeping a close watch on it!

as far as my diet goes,ask my good frendy for one he is a bodybuilder he actualy won junior Mr universe!so think my diet is good!!

PCT=I am gona do pregnalor clomid!still waiting for response from my suplier

If u gonna do tren regardless what we suggest then atleast do Doc's pct protocol.

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wes
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17 Feb 2011 06:47 #61182 by wes

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I have already orderd and payed for tren<basicaly on its way?think i will stick with it then????

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wes
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17 Feb 2011 06:49 #61183 by wes

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tren on its way already??jip i will do doc PCT bro.

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Koe007
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17 Feb 2011 07:00 #61184 by Koe007

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Agree with 00pump 1.5ml Equi would yield greater results over 15 week period than your tren with far less sides. 300mg Tren Enanthate 150mg 2/week is EXTREMELY unwise, also the Enanthate is a longer acting Ester, therefore longer time to realise the damage you have done and get off it. As far as diet is concerned it should be tailored to your individual needs and adjusted weekly or monthly depending on your results. He must be a good friend to take such time to design it for you. Personally id go with DJ best results Ive gotten have been with his diets.

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wes
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17 Feb 2011 07:06 #61185 by wes

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isnt tren beter for lean gains than equi?and over shorter time period to seesome gains?

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Koe007
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17 Feb 2011 07:12 #61186 by Koe007

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You are right but remember we don't look at short term, but long term results, taking into consideration your bodies health, ability to keep gains etc. Rather get rid of the Tren and get some Equi. Ability to keep gains for Equi over that period are far better than Tren. Check your steroid ranking chart. Also for putting on Mass Equi gives you a super human appetite.

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wes
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17 Feb 2011 07:16 #61187 by wes

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hehe yeah appetite is mean with equi ive heard!where this ranking chart your talking about?

cant i go like 3weeks tren.then switch to equi?tren will be almost like front loading?

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00pump
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17 Feb 2011 07:38 #61188 by 00pump

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If you using Tren E you can't use it for 4 weeks, it's too short, as Koe007 said, it's a long ester.

Keep your tren for another cycle, do what is suggested see if you like it.

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Koe007
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17 Feb 2011 07:40 #61189 by Koe007

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www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/downloads/cat_view/21-miscellaneous
(Finaplix is Tren)

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wes
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17 Feb 2011 07:42 #61190 by wes

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thanx pump will do so!!how long can i keep the tren 150,wont it go out of solotion??

on the tren subject,do u know of some one who have used it?and what was there results??

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wes
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17 Feb 2011 07:43 #61191 by wes

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thanx bro!!

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00pump
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17 Feb 2011 08:25 #61195 by 00pump

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You can keep it for a year or so, without a problem

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wes
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17 Feb 2011 08:28 #61196 by wes

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cool...thanx

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roidolone
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17 Feb 2011 16:17 #61268 by roidolone

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@ wes: ill have to put my prejudgments to rest ,i was expecting much more from the post title my bad, the suggested are solid plans but ill drop the equi and just do a test only cycle@ +500mg p/w i think the long esters will produce the desired gains if your diet is in check ,ill do something like this :

1-10 mixed ester blend test @500mg-750mg p/w
10-13 test prop @100mg-150mg e2d
13-14 clomid @100mg
14-17 kessar@20mg +aromasin @20mg ed
14-16 hcg @500iu e2d

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00pump
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17 Feb 2011 16:50 #61272 by 00pump

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Looks good, decent cycle, decent pct

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