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16 Jan 2011 15:17 #59452 by killjoy
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HI,

My brother and myself would like to get onto a cycle to help with mass gain and strength...sure you must be sick of all the questions from the newbies...but please help.

What would you guys suggest??

Brother Stats:
Age : 20
Height: 1.93m
Weight: 100kg

My Stats:
Age: 34
Height: 1.83m
Weight 95kg

We want to gain quickly and with little water retention. Also dont want anything with too many side effects. Friends have suggest DECA or EQUI..but what other compounds would we need to take with it??

Would also like to know whats the best cutting compound and when to use it??

Also, any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

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16 Jan 2011 17:26 #59454 by Pumped
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Don't take deca or equi use test for your first cycle.

Here read this before you want to start any juice cycle

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/cycle-d...cle-should-look-like

You guys might think I'm crazy,but i know how to achieve greatness.

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17 Jan 2011 07:51 #59478 by STUARTF
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Hi Killjoy

The "what a first cycle should look like" post is a good place to start.

Don't go for Deca if you are concerned with water retention as it can cause excessive bloating. Also think about running arimidex which will help keep water low and provide a anti-estrogen on-cycle. The proviron in the above mentioned post should be enough though.

Remember "cutting" and getting ripped is mostly attributed to a good low fat, low carb diet. A "cutting" steroid will only be effective when combined with a well-structured diet. Good cutting steroids would include most of your DHT (dihydro-terstosterone) based steroids that mimic the actions of testosterone but keep muscles hard and dry. These would include Masteron, Anavar, Winstol, Proviron etc. A good fat burner such as clenbuterol or heat can also be very effective in the quest to get lean and ripped.

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17 Jan 2011 10:11 #59496 by Frikkie
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think your brother should wait a few years. At 1.93m and 100kgs he's naturally a big guy and at that age you can make amazing gains without aas. get a diet from dj, he's email is under the 'contacts' tab.

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18 Jan 2011 09:20 #59545 by killjoy
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Thanks for all the help guys really appreciate it!!

Its a kak one being the eldest and your youngest brother is bigger than you...lol!!

But he has agreed to wait awhile.

Will be in contact to get the proper diet for him!

Thanks

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18 Jan 2011 12:30 #59556 by killjoy
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hi,

just a quick one in conjunction with a good diet, between heat and bee stings which is the better fat burner??

Thanks,

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18 Jan 2011 13:20 #59567 by STUARTF
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Heat IMO

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18 Jan 2011 15:16 #59574 by Captain
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very rarely does any type of stimulant affect me. i have used phadrine on its own before, big mistake. overdosed a bit. sad part of my life. did use MAK3 ECA caps before but also felt nothing. Heat i felt from the first 2 caps i popped, i was impressed. just started so keen to see how it actually works myself.got flu now after using for the first day so i stipped until feeling better.

Each day ask yourself "have I done my very best today? Or have I just done my best?"

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18 Jan 2011 15:52 #59578 by jackrabbit1
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Captain wrote: very rarely does any type of stimulant affect me. i have used phadrine on its own before, big mistake. overdosed a bit. sad part of my life. did use MAK3 ECA caps before but also felt nothing. Heat i felt from the first 2 caps i popped, i was impressed. just started so keen to see how it actually works myself.got flu now after using for the first day so i stipped until feeling better.


Everything else was fake. Dont feel impressed! You should be pissed you were cheated before.

Like my buddy a long time ago on his first Ecstasy pill; I'm raving my ass off on the same while he tells me its not working. 5 mins later i find him in front of the speaker bopping away. If its real it will work. Same with Eph - if real you will feel it - no 2 ways about it.

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24 Jan 2011 06:02 #59872 by killjoy
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Hi,

I used to be a heavy drinker but have stopped drinking for the last 4 months..just wanted to know if there would be any harm while i am cycling if i had a few whiskeys and water??

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24 Jan 2011 06:13 #59874 by STUARTF
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It's all about moderation but being a past heavy drinker you might find this difficult. If you've lasted 4 months already rather keep it up and abstain while you on-cycle. A heavy drinking night while on juice can do serious damage to your liver.

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