Starting off

Im sure this has been asked before, and if someone could point me to the right thread, much appreciated.

if not, please can you guys advise:

I want to start on steroids for bulking and strenth, what should i be looking for? - i dont mind slow acting if it means having low side effects. i have been training naturally on and off (due to injury) for 4 yrs - i am now 24. ive also realised that orals aren't ideal - but i would prefer them if you could give advice for them

also, i know we can not discuss sources/suppliers - but is it really that easy to get a hold of this stuff?

Well welcome to the greatest forum on the planet anabolicsteroids.co.za

Well if you want to start a cycle for bulking and strength i suggest you have a look at this link first

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/cycle-d...cle-should-look-like

The thing with orals is that they arnent that great on the liver and the orals that are not that heavy on the liver don't(BY THEMSELVES)have a great impact eg.) Proviron .

Man up and inject.Trust me it takes a leap of faith but it's worth it.

Could you also please post the following bro.

Your
1.) Weight,
2.) Height,
3.) Diet,

and any other information that would be of use to the fellow www.anabolicsteroids.co.za forum members.

Also have a read here about dieting.

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/dieting...on/56925-dieting-101

Also have a look at this thread about PCT.This is a very important thing to do in order to maintain your gains when going off a cycle.

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/post-cy...-to-pct-construction

Thanks for the links, very usefull.

just some further questions:
with the first cycle ...
20mls of test cyp/test en/testoviron/sust. [PLEASE CAN U GIVE ME THE FULL NAMES?]

100x10mg Dbol tabs. [WHILE LOOKING AROUND I FOUND SOMETHING CALLED "DBOL X" - MENT TO BE A LEGAL/NATURAL VERSION - ANY INFO ON THIS PRODUCT?

50 proviron tabs/100winstrol tabs.

15 clomid tabs. [ ARE THESE TWO PCT PRODUCTS AVALIBLE ACROSS COUNTER ?]
30 kessar tabs.

also, with the testosterone injectable will there be any need for aromatize inhibitors?

p.s - I am 90kgs - 1.74m and am embarking on a 3 meal + 3 protein meal replacment a day diet...unfortunatly i dont have a choice in my meals, but its decent food in mass, and i can avoid things like bread and sugar and booze

1.) The tests name is testocyp 250 or Testen 300 and they are manufactored by PGW (These are the 2 different estered tests out there on the sa market for the best value for money).

2.) Don't get d-bolx it's bullshit,get 2 bottles of LP D-bol 10mg.

3.) The 2 pct products are availible across the counter if you have a valid doctors prescription.Which is hard to get legally.But it can be purchased from a underground lab such as LP for a very reasonable price.Both clomid and Nolvadex.

ok starting to grasp this..

through the research ive been doing they say:

any for of test will have aromatization effects i.e gyno - however there's recomendations of stacking proviron with it as it has high anti - aromatization properties allowing more roaming testosterone to be avalible to the muscles wich will inturn increase fat burning:

"Thus, if you are taking a simple stack of proviron and testosterone, you´ll have more of the test you shoot as free testosterone floating around building muscle (compliments of the Proviron), more androgen receptors to be bound to (compliments of your testosterone) by your Proviron, thus causing more fat loss. Testosterone and Proviron are a very nice synergistic stack, pretty nearly an "ideal" stack of an oral and injectable, because both drugs will actually act to enhance the effect of the other."

The D-bol seems to be a pretty well regarded steroid for achieveing strenth and fat free muscle growth:

. The researchers concluded that Dbol increases Fat Free Mass as well as increasing strength and performance

WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS:

can i maybe just take d-bol on its own or maybe just test cyp with proviron with out the d-bol - im not doing this for comp im more doing it for sport so it can be gradual ... yes, yes i DO know abt testing in sport

Dbol alone is not a good idea. One best uses dbol (Dianabol) as a quick acting kick start to a cycle that consits mainly of slower acting substances, in order to get gains from early in the cycle. Dbol gains on their own are not very maintainable.

Test cyp (testosterone cypionate) is a very slow acting ester of testosterone. It can be used on its own but can take up to 5 weeks for noticable gains to begin. For this reason we use dbol in conjunction with it.

An example of a cycle of test cyp and dbol would be:
week 1-4 : 40mg dbol per day
: 500mg test cyp per week (2ml/week, split into 1ml mon and 1ml thurs)
week 5-10/12/15 : 500mg test cyp per week

There are other options to finish the cycle of, eg winstrol, and a standard PCT must follow. Proviron can be run throughout, or a cheaper option is to keep and AI on hand in case of sides (proviron would be a pre-emptive).

Testosterone also comes in a couple other esters, for instance enanthate which is slightly faster acting than cypionate, and propionate which is very fast acting and should be injected every 2 days to keep stable. One can also buy mixes of these esters such as Sustanon or Supertest