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13 Dec 2010 20:14 #57829 by Frog
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As this is my first post, I'd just like to start by saying - My hat's off to the gents that run this forum/site! The fact that there are guys out there that are more than willing to help & share their hard earned knowledge on what the majority of the world classes as a "contraversial" topic! Nothing but the trueth that people won't ever stop using gear & yet there is no freely available info/education out there on how to use it correctly, IF USE IT AT ALL!

I've been shadowing this site for a good few months now, gathering my info, doing homework, getting to know who the guys in the know are, etc... before posting anything!

Planning my first cycle for around end of Jan, I'm 90% certain of what I need & need to do/get done in regard to the cycle, but still have many questions to ask... all in due time! (CAN NEVER STOP LEARNING!!)

Once again, many thanks to all you guys for the shared knowledge!

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13 Dec 2010 20:34 #57830 by vega5
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The best first post I've ever read on this forum, well done!

Now tell us a bit about yourself

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15 Dec 2010 07:37 #57892 by Rowan
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Hey bud.

Nice post & welcome to ASCOZA!

PEACE...

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15 Dec 2010 08:28 #57899 by 00pump
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Welcome

"Whether You Think You Can or Can't, You're Right"--Henry Ford

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17 Dec 2010 20:13 #58037 by Frog
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Thanks for the great welcome guys!

A bit about myself...

Age : 27
Hieght : 170cm
Weight : 67kg
B.F : +-16.9%
Training : On & off 3years (currently just started again after 3 years off...:dry: )

Goal : Weight : +-100kg
B.F : +-6%
Time frame : Under a year (Hopefully!)

Basically, I've had an interest in "gear" since my teens, never used it then thankfully! What my plan was back then (age 17) was to approach Pretoria University Med. Dep. to have test done to find out exactly what I needed, how , when... all the obvious! But never went through with it. I never had a clue about diet etc, my supps consisted of 1 serving (some or other) protien shake a day, creatine monohydrate & sandwiches for lunch... all while pushing wieghts through the roof for over a year & a half, 5 days a week! Only picked up +-4kgs... hmmmm!:P (Good ol' nieve days... young, dumb & full of cum...!)

Now, time to take it more seriously! I've been trying to work out a diet\meal plan compliments mainly of DJ's posts & from many other threads, not as easy as it seems! No wonder you charge for it DJ, I can't even get it hundreds on my own!! Worked out BMR & TDEE, etc, as per Katch-McArdie formula. Bit of confusion there though but more on that later. I'll post what I've come up with another time soon!

Realising that I was being a little hasty in wanting to do my first cycle, I've decided to postpone it indefinately, untill I know I'm at my max & ready for it!

This is repeating alot of what has been discused before but, My first cycle was going to be,
Deca 300 - 400mg\week
Sus 250 - 500mg\week
Run for 12 weeks, with proper PCT (info gathered from many threads as well as Doctari's writings)

SCRAPPED that plan...

Now I've decided to do a Test only cycle kick started with D-Bol for first 4 weeks. (Safer & can see what's causing sides on further cycles)

Now without sounding silly, I've got to ask whether doing a first cycle of Sus-250 would be a good option as it is a combination of 4 long & short ester tests? I'm not looking to get to competition levels, perhaps in the future, lets see where I get with this first! Got to rework the PCT around this but shouldn't be too difficult with a little guidance.

Advice... opinions... creative criticism...?
Any guidance would be much appreciated as I want to do this the RIGHT way from the begining!

Thanks Guys!

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17 Dec 2010 21:29 #58038 by milktuds
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Frog wrote: Thanks for the great welcome guys!

A bit about myself...

Age : 27
Hieght : 170cm
Weight : 67kg
B.F : +-16.9%
Training : On & off 3years (currently just started again after 3 years off...:dry: )

Goal : Weight : +-100kg
B.F : +-6%
Time frame : Under a year (Hopefully!)

Basically, I've had an interest in "gear" since my teens, never used it then thankfully! What my plan was back then (age 17) was to approach Pretoria University Med. Dep. to have test done to find out exactly what I needed, how , when... all the obvious! But never went through with it. I never had a clue about diet etc, my supps consisted of 1 serving (some or other) protien shake a day, creatine monohydrate & sandwiches for lunch... all while pushing wieghts through the roof for over a year & a half, 5 days a week! Only picked up +-4kgs... hmmmm!:P (Good ol' nieve days... young, dumb & full of cum...!)

Now, time to take it more seriously! I've been trying to work out a diet\meal plan compliments mainly of DJ's posts & from many other threads, not as easy as it seems! No wonder you charge for it DJ, I can't even get it hundreds on my own!! Worked out BMR & TDEE, etc, as per Katch-McArdie formula. Bit of confusion there though but more on that later. I'll post what I've come up with another time soon!

Realising that I was being a little hasty in wanting to do my first cycle, I've decided to postpone it indefinately, untill I know I'm at my max & ready for it!

This is repeating alot of what has been discused before but, My first cycle was going to be,
Deca 300 - 400mg\week
Sus 250 - 500mg\week
Run for 12 weeks, with proper PCT (info gathered from many threads as well as Doctari's writings)

SCRAPPED that plan...

Now I've decided to do a Test only cycle kick started with D-Bol for first 4 weeks. (Safer & can see what's causing sides on further cycles)

Now without sounding silly, I've got to ask whether doing a first cycle of Sus-250 would be a good option as it is a combination of 4 long & short ester tests? I'm not looking to get to competition levels, perhaps in the future, lets see where I get with this first! Got to rework the PCT around this but shouldn't be too difficult with a little guidance.

Advice... opinions... creative criticism...?
Any guidance would be much appreciated as I want to do this the RIGHT way from the begining!

Thanks Guys!


No way you will pack on 35kg of muscle within one year. More like 15 years or more. Bro get a good diet going. Follow that for a year or two. Reach your natural limits before jumping on the gear.

Test E or Cyp at 500mg/week would probably be better, but my first cycle contained Sust. So you'll live. Admin had a nice thread on PCT's. Check it out.

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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18 Dec 2010 05:33 #58043 by Empire
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www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/dieting...25-dieting-101#57092 that will give u a better idea of how u need to diet bro...

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18 Dec 2010 14:37 #58052 by Pumped
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Frog i don't know how you're gonna pick up +-35 kg's in 1 year .Gear is not a miracle drug it just gives you that extra 10% that you need.Remember try to focus more on your diet and your training than trying to take all different kinds of fancy juice.

You guys might think I'm crazy,but i know how to achieve greatness.

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18 Dec 2010 15:42 #58053 by vega5
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The body takes time to get used to a lot of new muscle/mass! Tendons take time to catch up, organs need to now cope with more work, there's so many factors involved. Even if it was possible to gain 35kg muscle a year I would strongly recommend not doing it because of the strain on your body.

The big boys then work on a conservative estimate of 1kg of pure muscle a year and for those of you who want to argue take Jay Cutler's weight in 2000 compared to now!

Not that you're a pro but you'll pick up nicely in the beginning with good guidance and then also have steady gains over the next couple of years. Remember this sport is about consistency and with consistency comes a great physique.

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