Dianabol 4 week cycle

Hey guys

Would like to know your opinion on how dianabol alone could be cyceld to maximum effect. Im not a novice anabolic user, but has been clean for 2 years. My id was to use up to 6 pills a day every training day for 4 weeks, thus ending first week January, post cycling and goin onto clenbuterol for cutting phase.

Any suggestions. !0 ml clen, and 100 x 5mg diana tablets

Gerber wrote: Hey guys

Would like to know your opinion on how dianabol alone could be cyceld to maximum effect. Im not a novice anabolic user, but has been clean for 2 years. My id was to use up to 6 pills a day every training day for 4 weeks, thus ending first week January, post cycling and goin onto clenbuterol for cutting phase.

Any suggestions. !0 ml clen, and 100 x 5mg diana tablets

Do some reading around here ,before you fuck yourself up!!!!!!!

Gerber wrote: Hey guys

Would like to know your opinion on how dianabol alone could be cyceld to maximum effect

Unless the "maximum effect" you have in mind is looking like the Michelen Man you're gonna be very disappointed. As Pumped said, stick around and do a little bit of research on this site and you'll find the answers to all the questions you haven't even though of yet

Well, the thing is guys. I probally am one of the biggest natural bodybuilders in SA. Cutting down from 135kg's to a minimum of 105kg's. I have no proper knowledge on roids, and i do think that its a quicker way out if ur body type allows for it.( Keeping in mind that you still have to train urself silly )

Down in George where im from, the guys are just not clued up enough about steroid use, and those who are is to scared to share.

Maybe I should just keep with natural, train another year on Supplements sa's massive muscle and natural hormone enhancers and kick the shit out of the novice devision in two years time, and then go on with my personal training career.

I have downloaded the suggested 1st and 2nd cycle from this page. And if I decide to do another cycle, i will follow one of these two plans. I have done a proper cycle before, did work very well, kept 90% of the muscle gained, but lost a shit load of strenght, once again due to lag of knowledge from the people who is suppose to know ( PHD ).

Keep up the good support concerning steroid use, the youngsters out there really need the help. As for mr whats his name. Wont be fucking myself up in the near future, but thanx for the warning

If you have done a cycle before then you are not a natural bodybuilder. Also if you looking at cutting 20kgs, then you seriously overweight. Good luck with what you decide..

any bodybuilder should cut bout 10kgs after off season, i just need to cut about 20kgs or less. Im a big guy, not ur avg 1.75 shortass. ill probally be at 6% at 110

done my last cycle 2 years ago, i think i can classify all my new gains as natural:lol:

Before I start, @Pumped I really don't like the way you speak to people hey! Check your attitude at the door and it doesn't mean because you use steroids that your tough!

@Gerber, 00pump said it, you can't be a natural bb if you have ever used steroids! You're going to waste you time on this cycle, you're probably not going to keep 5% of what you gain.

I'm not gonna argue with you on the Dianabol gaining or not gaining muscle. The idea was to boost hormone levels just for the month before starting to cut down. But if not doing it the right way full out, guess it is a waste of money and time. What would you suggest I do along with the clenbuterol. It doesnt aromitize, it has a life time of up to 65 hours, and that i should use about 140 mcg/day. But what would make that work better and how should i cycle it, 3 weeks on 1 week off ???????.

Pumped, if you cant give me good advice, keep the trap shut. need information, not criticism, im my own worst critic.

Anyway, which of you guys did compete before, and how did you place?

Oh yeah, Vega, I hear what you are saying about the natural thing. i have learned that in life nothing is as it seems. So if they test me and im negative which i will be, I will feel better knowing that the guy next to me most probally also used before. Its like the oakes with this usn challenge, they hit the winstril hard, short life so they clean by the time of judgeing. Even with cypionate, if you use the right amount for the right time, you also dont test possitive. Many ways to skin a cat

well anyway, my question to you is why natural bodybuilding (considering you've already used and are thinking about using again)? I mean there eally isnt much competition in the natural leagues... and from what i've heard their shows are a mess.

If you wanna compete as a bodybuilder you may as well go up against the best and compete IFBB or NABBA... The only time i can understand competing in natural divisions is if you have a moral aversion to steroids, otherwise its really like a poorer cousin to the bigger federations.

As for that cycle, its a waste of time. And your idea of boosting hormone levels before cutting, also completely off... Any steroid cycle will supplement levels during use but will actually have a negative effect on hormone levels by shutting down natural test production. Hence the reason for recovering after a cycle... you dont go off a cycle with higher hormone levels, but rathe lower.

Oh and i have competed, just once, at the IFBB KZN Novice this year... 2nd in the classic division, see my avatar
Will be compting in my first big show in June at the East Coast Classic

Thanks Spike.
Well, I've got the " But my wife" problem haha.:sick:
You look good, i I just have the perception that a bodybuilder is someone who competed, doesn't matter where you placed. So i consider myself a trainer in an gym. Will compete next year in the ifbb. 1st comp in march.

I dont really want to expose myself to long term steroid use. Will be more than happy to get my fat % down to 10% and just stay there. But my competitive side always wants to do better. So i will compete this year coming, see how i do and consider my options from there on.
If i do go on with competing i will surely consider steroid use, but will have to get proper help from people who knows what they are doing. Im 26 now, so still nice and young. But I noticed that the competition in each devision is getting very tight. And in my dev which wil be above 100, just hope my lineup next year is empty

Cool, i would definately recommend the IFBB KZN Novice in Apil (or any other local ifbb novice champs) is i great comp to enter as your first one. It was an amazing experience for me this year and i have a number of mates doing it next year. Even in the novice divisions the competition is strong, but thats for the top places. This years novice champs had a lot of guys that were far off contest shape... The main thing is to find someone who will help you get your diet and precontest routine right, as this is the make or break... Muiscles are all well and good but if you step on stage without a 6pack showing or looking like you're still bulking it looks ridiculous. Condition over size, every time.

DJ from this forum lead me into the comp, he prepped everything for me, diet, pre cycle, water loss... and it worked.
He does do custom diets for a price so is worth chattin to.

@Gerber I'm guessing you're weighing in the 120s, how tall are you? You sound like a monster

Gerber wrote: Thanks Spike.
Well, I've got the " But my wife" problem haha.:sick:
You look good, i I just have the perception that a bodybuilder is someone who competed, doesn't matter where you placed. So i consider myself a trainer in an gym. Will compete next year in the ifbb. 1st comp in march.

I dont really want to expose myself to long term steroid use. Will be more than happy to get my fat % down to 10% and just stay there. But my competitive side always wants to do better. So i will compete this year coming, see how i do and consider my options from there on.
If i do go on with competing i will surely consider steroid use, but will have to get proper help from people who knows what they are doing. Im 26 now, so still nice and young. But I noticed that the competition in each devision is getting very tight. And in my dev which will be above 100, just hope my lineup next year is empty

If you wanna get into single figures then D-bol is gonna be out of the question.
You should send an e-mail to DJ and tell him what you're goals are and what your resources are and then he can help you.Like he helped spike.But DJ does charge for his diets but I believe that they are worth it though.

And as for a compound to help you loose extra fat I would use some clen at low doses.

Thank you guys for all the suggestions. i will get into contact with DJ early in the new year. A dieting plan would be the greatest id of all to start with. Then take it from there.

We have ifbb competitions in april aswell down at the coast. Pumped u were right bout being overweight, training my bum off to get rid so that i dont have to be the embarresing Depotrone look alike on stage.

I'm at 134kg's at the moment and 1.87m tall. I do have a heavy bone structure tho. If i'm at 25% bodyfat, could be arond 30% tho. Will have that cheched, then id have to loose 20 - 25kg's in 4 months time. And im planning on doing it in that time span so to preserve muscle while dieting. Will post pictures closer to march. Can you plz send my Dj's email, would like to get into contact with him thnx

Gerber wrote: Thank you guys for all the suggestions. i will get into contact with DJ early in the new year. A dieting plan would be the greatest id of all to start with. Then take it from there.

We have ifbb competitions in april aswell down at the coast. Pumped u were right bout being overweight, training my bum off to get rid so that i dont have to be the embarresing Depotrone look alike on stage.

I'm at 134kg's at the moment and 1.87m tall. I do have a heavy bone structure tho. If i'm at 25% bodyfat, could be arond 30% tho. Will have that cheched, then id have to loose 20 - 25kg's in 4 months time. And im planning on doing it in that time span so to preserve muscle while dieting. Will post pictures closer to march. Can you plz send my Dj's email, would like to get into contact with him thnx

If you go to the 'contact us' page you will be able to send him a message.

well dude i would first of all start by cleaning up the eating,u need to work on that body fat %,start cleaning up your carb sources and adding in cardio and then see how you progress in the next 4 weeks,to go from 30% to contest ready body fat levels in a space of roughly 16 weeks(that how long it is to the first shows of the year as of today!) is gonna be savage and also to try and do that is gonna result in alot of muscle loss... just working out here,u wanna be 105kgs on stage but u are 135kgs now with a 30% body fat like u said? thats 94.5kgs, u still wanna cut back on fat and put on 10kg's of muscle? thats a very difficult task,espicially if u are using dianabol as most of it is 90% water retention gains...

your diet needs to be spot on,your cardio and training needs to be 200% spot on and your chemical usage needs to be spot on to pull off a result such as that...

Hi DJ

I was just gessing my bodyfatm, will have it measured and let you know the correct figures. But i can gfo under 100kgs that would be super. nOt looking at adding muscle right now. Just need to get lean. And guess what, started working at a chocolate factory today haha, had to taste all teh chocolates toady, feel like doing 2 hours of cardio, as if thats gonna help. You can give me an idea of what you would charge for a diet plan. Will send you all my details so you have a idea what you working with. But yeah, need a strict diet, and im willing to follow. As for the chemicals, i need to save up so i can purchase what i need in Jan early, the guys are charging a bit too much for chemicals down here tho. Swopping the dianabols for incenerate fatburners and testo blast

bro email me from the contact us page at the top of the forum

Hey Mr. Gerber

I'm no pro but I think that your goals are a bit high. If you keep the same goal and extend it to be achievable over a longer period your results will be a lot better.

I have lost 30KG's last year in the USN Challenge (113 - 83KG's) with no use of any anabolics. I followed a proper diet plan trained twice a day (HIIT cardio in the evening after work and weight training in the morning with a personal trainer that placed 4th in the IFBB South African National Championships 2010) and used supplements like fat burners/whey protein/l-glutamine.

It sure was hard work but so worth worth it. I have picked up around 3KG's of pure muscle since I finished the USN Challenge last year April and lost some more fat and I'm now 84KG's on the scale.

I'm starting to take my training serious lately and just started my new diet on Monday and using supplements from Gaspari (PlasmaJets/SuperPump250/Size-On (Pre Contest) Animal Cuts and L-Glutamine with Whey Protein for post workout (I'm still learning every day)

You should follow your diet 110% (as they say diet is 60%, training is 40% or something like that)

Take Care and good luck