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25 Nov 2010 05:54 #56675 by splash26
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ha ha sorry pump all these abriviations are a bit confusing but thanks i'll take a look at it

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25 Nov 2010 05:56 #56676 by Pumped
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you do that.;)

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25 Nov 2010 06:08 #56681 by splash26
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o ok cool so it'll be like an injetion of growth in the fat on my stomach? and just to be sure hcg is prygnal right?

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25 Nov 2010 06:15 #56683 by 00pump
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Pregnly is just a name, the active ingrediant human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG). You can get synthetic hCG which has a name of Ovidrel.

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25 Nov 2010 06:19 #56684 by splash26
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o ok cool ill see witch one i can get! thanks guys really apreciate all the help ill let you guys know what happens!

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25 Nov 2010 08:42 #56699 by Romp3L
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DJ wrote: bro how old are you? 22? dont waste your money on gh yet,rather add in some equipoise into your cycle,gh needs to be run at 4-6iu for 6months to get maximum results,using it for less than 3 months is a waste of time unless u want an expensive fat burner.

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26 Nov 2010 10:50 #56750 by ice-rip
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DJ wrote: u know what,just look at this thread. should cure all your questions www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/cycle-d...cle-should-look-like

hi
i have looked at this cycle and have 2 questions. first my stats quickly
age 31 and a half
height 1.98m
current cycle - week 12 of test cypionate at 600mg/week- mon and thursday split
weight 110kgs (starting weight of cycle was 100kgs)

i was planning on doing only the 12 weeks and then start hcg at 500ius a day for 2 weeks with and kessar and proviron. i wanted to continue the kessar at 20mg for two weeks after my last hcg shot. i started using proviron at 50mg/week from week 3.

my first question is. can i continue my cycle to 16weeks. will i put on more size because it seems like i have plateaued. i reached 110kgs around week 8 and havent picked up any weight since then.

if i choose to stop, do i really need the hcg. if it will assist my recovery at all, then i would like to include it. i really dont mind the cost but do i really need it as i havent noticed too much atrophy of my nuts.

this is my first cycle and i would prefer to continue and possibly reach 115kgs. is 16 weeks not too long as i heard that most cycle lengths should be kept at 12 weeks. is your recommendation of 16 weeks bvased on the fact that its a 1st cycle.

thanks in advance

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26 Nov 2010 12:12 #56755 by Pumped
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Are you using an anti-estrogen while on your cycle,because it sounds like too much water weight that you've put on.

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26 Nov 2010 12:15 #56757 by Empire
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if you have hit a plateau its diet related and training related.

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26 Nov 2010 12:16 #56758 by Pumped
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Ja i would recommend a pct with HCG as it makes you feel better on your pct.Trust me no amount of clomid and nolvadex can make you feel as good as HCG.
Take a look at these two attachments that clearly show you how to pct and how to give a sub-q injection.

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26 Nov 2010 12:18 #56759 by Empire
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he will get away with the pct i suggested pumped... HCG can be used on a first cycle but not 100% essential when only test is used...

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26 Nov 2010 12:21 #56760 by Pumped
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So what could ice rip do to correct his plateau that he has reached DJ.

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26 Nov 2010 12:21 #56761 by ice-rip
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thanks guys. i am using max ot training and i have been using proviron from week 3. if i increase my carbs too high, i pick up too much fat. please advise if i should continue to do the other 4 weeks of depo test and can someone please help me with the amounts of carbs and timing i should eat. i am an endomorph so i have cut out high gi drinks from my whey post workout as well.

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26 Nov 2010 12:29 #56764 by Empire
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carbs are not what u should be worrying about,carbs in the right placing wont do to much damage to your body fat,aka breakfast,pre work out,post work out. the rest of your meals should be protein and fats and veggies,u can be aqn endomorph and still have gi carbs post work out. either u are not working out hard enough or are just eating a load of shit quality carbs,what sources do you get carbs from in your diet? if you say bread,pasta,provita's,rye bread,all bran,pronutro etc then u know where to change! clean carbs from oats,potato,sweet potato,rice,brown rice will not have a major effect on body fat in the right amounts...

also if u cant tell me how many grams of everything you are having then that can be your problem to.. u need a scale to measure everything! not scoops,spoons or 1-2 chicken breasts!

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26 Nov 2010 12:55 #56769 by ice-rip
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i currently use a scale. i normally weigh around 200grams of chicken raw which is around 50grams of protein. breakfast is oats (i used to do 100grams raw weight) but thought thats making me fat. the other meals are chicken breasts with sometimes mayo or olive. i know they mayonaise isnt good but i also weigh it and aim for around 30g of fat. included in that is almonds. preworkout , i normally use around 80 grams of carbs but have cut that to 60grams. post workout , i used to use 60grams of game sports drink with 40grams of sps iso pro whey plus ssn cgt. i cut out the game because i am an endomorph. 1 hour later, i was eating around 80grams of carbs plus chicken. a lot of these carbs are from albany low gi bread and tastic white rice. these are listed as low gi. so i dont know whats the problem.

i tried following the carb cycling codec by christian tribeadeau (think thats how u spell his surname) but i got more fat on my high carb days

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26 Nov 2010 13:02 #56771 by ice-rip
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oh also please advise ur thoughts on whetehr i should start my hcg on Monday or continue to 16 weeks on test cyp.
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26 Nov 2010 13:20 #56773 by Empire
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bro just because its low gi doesnt mean its only carbs. now for instance why is 100g of potato only 20g carbs / 80 calories but 1 slice of bread maybe 20g of carbs but is 100calories? because bread is still make with flower,water and oil,and fats etc, so u might be only counting the carbs in bread but its still a shit carb source and contains other things u just were not expecting,i promise u right now if u were to change bread to sweet potato and white rice to basmati or brown rice u wouldn't have this issue! u dont need to cut out the carbs cos u are endomorphic,u have to choose the right type of carbs and stick to it.... u should look at having carbs 3 times a day,breakfast,pre work out(from both low gi and high gi carbs) and then high gi carbs post work out. not post work out and then an hour after that!30g of fat per serving of mayo?? come off your cycle and go on pct.. how many meals are you having in a day? how many grams of protein?

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26 Nov 2010 13:22 #56774 by Empire
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at the end of the day if u are getting fat its because u are having to many calories. your protein should be high,carb moderate and fats moderate...

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26 Nov 2010 13:50 #56783 by ice-rip
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DJ wrote: at the end of the day if u are getting fat its because u are having to many calories. your protein should be high,carb moderate and fats moderate...

i was aiming for around 320g of protein a day. is that too much. i have around 80g of fat and now that i have cut carbs, i eat around 170grams carbs on non training days and around 220g training. the carb cycling codec suggested that i pick 2 high carbs days (415grams of carbs on these days i.e chest and legs days), 2 moderate carbs days (363grams of carbs) and 2 low carb days (non training days at 274grams). if i use the right carbs you suggested i.e no bread, white rice etc, can i eat these volumes and get lean. also how much hi gi carbs would you put in my post workout shake.
thanks again guys. your help is really appreciated

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26 Nov 2010 13:52 #56784 by ice-rip
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oh and i used to eat around 8 meals a day but cut down to 6 due to my own confusion. pwo shake is counted as a meal

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26 Nov 2010 13:55 #56785 by ice-rip
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DJ wrote: bro just because its low gi doesnt mean its only carbs. now for instance why is 100g of potato only 20g carbs / 80 calories but 1 slice of bread maybe 20g of carbs but is 100calories? because bread is still make with flower,water and oil,and fats etc, so u might be only counting the carbs in bread but its still a shit carb source and contains other things u just were not expecting,i promise u right now if u were to change bread to sweet potato and white rice to basmati or brown rice u wouldn't have this issue! u dont need to cut out the carbs cos u are endomorphic,u have to choose the right type of carbs and stick to it.... u should look at having carbs 3 times a day,breakfast,pre work out(from both low gi and high gi carbs) and then high gi carbs post work out. not post work out and then an hour after that!30g of fat per serving of mayo?? come off your cycle and go on pct.. how many meals are you having in a day? how many grams of protein?


so are you saying that i should have high gi carbs postworkout and my meal an hour after that should have no carbs and should be just protein and fats with veggies? is this what i am understanding. sorry for so many questions but i need good advice like this

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26 Nov 2010 14:09 #56786 by ice-rip
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Pumped wrote: Ja i would recommend a pct with HCG as it makes you feel better on your pct.Trust me no amount of clomid and nolvadex can make you feel as good as HCG.
Take a look at these two attachments that clearly show you how to pct and how to give a sub-q injection.

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what would happen if i gave the hcg the intramuscular. would that be a problem or would it work just as well

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26 Nov 2010 18:11 #56797 by Pumped
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The reason why we inject it into the fat is so that it can be released over a longer period Hence there is less blood used by the fat than the muscle. It it will stay longer in your body.Trust me a sub-q injection is much better than a intra-musclular one.

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