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28 Oct 2010 20:33 #54222 by mike_1985
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Just about to start a cycle what do yo think?
1.5ml supertest320mg/1.5ml @480mg p/w
2.stanozolol 50mg eod
3.deca350 @ EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED p/w

Fireman Mike ...

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29 Oct 2010 05:53 #54230 by spike
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Increase the super test to 640mg (2ml) and/or decrese the deca to 350mg (1ml).
Try keep the test higher than the deca to keep the winky working

Um, but im scared of needles...

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29 Oct 2010 06:49 #54235 by Mr_SA
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How long will you be running this for???

Post some more information to get more and better feedback!!!

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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29 Oct 2010 06:58 #54238 by AJAY
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Hey Spike . . how u doing?

wow thats just about what i was gonna ask!! My first cycle was 1ml test & 1ml equip once a week and was thinking next year to do 2ml test 1ml deca once a week.

that sound good? as i only made about 3kg gains . . . on first cycle but 1st quarter of cycle i was doing a LOT of cardio (too much i think) so cut that out then the kg's started.

shot dude

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29 Oct 2010 07:18 #54241 by Mr_SA
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@Ajay: When on cycle... especially Deca... i am presuning you are trying to bulk... therefore, do not do Cardio! This will keep gains down, as your body will be burning the calories you are trying to get in for bulking!

You were on 1ml test a week... What test? As test usually needs to be injected twice a week!

And you say you want to do 1ml Deca and 2ml test for your next course.... Which test do you plan on using for that??

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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29 Oct 2010 07:24 #54243 by GSP
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AJAY wrote: Hey Spike . . how u doing?

wow thats just about what i was gonna ask!! My first cycle was 1ml test & 1ml equip once a week and was thinking next year to do 2ml test 1ml deca once a week.

that sound good? as i only made about 3kg gains . . . on first cycle but 1st quarter of cycle i was doing a LOT of cardio (too much i think) so cut that out then the kg's started.

shot dude


Call me risk adverse but to run 2ml test and 1ml deca/week on a 2nd cycle is not something for the faint hearted. At such high dosages u are opening yourself up to both estrogenic and progeserone related side effects and i hope you have your pct protocol and ancillaries down to the absolute T as you will opening yourself to some side effects at these dosages.

Mike; whats the duration of the cycle?

I agree with spike to bump up the test and lower the deca dosage. Id also not run the winnie immediately but rather run it towards the end of the cycle or if you see any signs of progesterone related side effects associated with the DECA usage. What ancillaries are you using while on the cycle and more importantly what does your PCT protocol look like?

Anopther thing, I assume you using the DECA to cut the supertest? Id suggest splitting the deca/supertest dosages to two shots per week as plugging 3cc's into your injection site is not ideal if this makes any sense

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01 Nov 2010 06:27 #54448 by AJAY
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hey Mr_SA

Yip - i am trying to bulk, correct!!! i noticed that on first cycle as i did toooo much cardio. I was on Test300 PGW and was told 1ml per week 1 injection.

for the next cycle i was planning on using the same test!! that ok?

Thanks for advice . . look forward to your reply dude ;)

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01 Nov 2010 14:06 #54524 by spike
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So you used the Test enanthate last time i take it. Ya 2ml of that is fine for your next cycle. Make sure you got a good clean bulking diet to run and you'll do great on this cycle. What pct did you run on the last cycle? I think you may see plenty gains on just the test and no deca, remeber if you do run the deca then your PCT must be spot on as it can affect recovery

Um, but im scared of needles...

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01 Nov 2010 14:39 #54532 by AJAY
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hey spike
yeah i think it was ( gonna double check bottle now wen i get home) . . . do u perhaps have a copy of a good bulking diet for me??
PCT was just Temoxifin - wanted to use Nolvadex but supplier had no stock.

2nd cycle u rekon just test? i only got 4.8kg gain on 1st cycle of test & equip!. . . ok spike, if i run Deca with test, what wuld suggest the correct PCT is then?

Thanx dude!! :)

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01 Nov 2010 15:16 #54533 by spike
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You could do it on test alone, but if you wanna run the deca then your pct needs to include kessar, clomid and hcg

Um, but im scared of needles...

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02 Nov 2010 06:10 #54594 by AJAY
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hey spike

yip it was test enanthate 300mg.

cool i think i might still run the Deca as wanna really see some gains this time!!! ok so my PCT wuld be both kessar & clomid . . . the HCG. is that injectable? what would the dosage be on these 3 pct's? shot dude.

any further info on a good bulking meal plan?

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02 Nov 2010 06:23 #54599 by johndoe14
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Gosh man .. research research
Don't come here expecting to be spoonfed .
everything you need to know is in the threads
Just read

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02 Nov 2010 08:09 #54609 by AJAY
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wow another one

i have researched the forum ( in case u havent noticed there are LOTS of pages and some DONT answer my questions hence i ask the experience people) . . .been on it longer than u JNR BOARDER!!! I am having a conversation (thats why they call it a chat forum) with spike so no need for u to butt in with your sarcy comments, thnx.
cheers have a good 1

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02 Nov 2010 08:45 #54617 by johndoe14
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ha im a jnr boarder because i read more than I talk.
anyways I'm sure you're not going to get a diet out of spike

but ey lets blame my comments on my cycle.

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02 Nov 2010 09:12 #54624 by Rowan
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Hey guys!

COme dudes (wheres dead goat with his acoustic remix of khumbaya when i need him?? ;) )

I think i told you in an earlier thread that HCG helps with Gonad atrophy which is the result of endo test shut down due to your exo test pins.

1. Ajay, HCG comes in the form of a powder & a vial of bacteriostatic water. You have to mix the 2.

2. Some people prefer to run the hcg with their pct at higher doses to kickstart their nads while others prefer to run it from around the 3rd week of the cycle at lower (250iu twice weekly) doses.

3. You can pin it intramuscularly just like your test/deca or you can use a slin pin
(insulin syringe)sub cutaneously in the gut.

Hope this sheds a bit more light on it, however johndoe14 is right - do a bit more research and you'll be good! :)

Peace...

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02 Nov 2010 12:45 #54668 by AJAY
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rowan

Thanks and thats more like it!!! awesome Karma for u dude!!!
hcg - yeah i saw that according and awesome piece ADMIN put on with regard to correct PCT protocol earlier!!! looks like i myt have to use that with next cycle.

it does shed more light and thanks for that

Peace bru :) ;)

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02 Nov 2010 17:48 #54723 by spike
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Easssssssy fellas... Ok well a good bulking diet is gonna need a balance of carbs, proteins and fats. You will need to work out a calorie excess for yourself and add accordingly. Your carbs should be focused towards your early meals and your pre gym meals, with some dextrose post workout. Evenings/after gym should be low carb and high in protein. At the end of the day the diet will be much like any other bodybuilding diet but with a calorie excess. You can substitute in some good red meat for your usual chicken as well to help bulking. To me steak is an essential part of a bulking diet (just watch the cholesterol). It will also depend on your metabolism and bodytype as to how much carb you can handle without too much fat gain.
Just make sure you're including your basic whole foods like chicken, eggs, oats, brown rice, veggies

Um, but im scared of needles...

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02 Nov 2010 17:55 #54725 by Pumped
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How many eggs and how much chicked in grams do you eat per day spike.

Because i started my new diet and i am now eating 5 egg whites and 1 whole egg and 1kg of chicken per day(it's expensive)yeah i know but it working wonders what do you rate of this spike?

You guys might think I'm crazy,but i know how to achieve greatness.

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02 Nov 2010 17:58 #54727 by spike
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That sounds about right. I have 5 eggs with breakfast. My chicken intake is nowhere near that at the moment... time and money constraints

Um, but im scared of needles...

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02 Nov 2010 18:05 #54728 by CHAPEL
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1kg? how much do you weigh..? is that on top of shakes..?

I always thought it was better to get your protein intake from a variety of sources not just chicken?

lol just re-read that, sounds like i'm interrogating you, sorry ;)

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02 Nov 2010 20:53 #54740 by Deadgoat
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When I was on keto I used to also eat 1kg of chicken on top of shakes, used to get in about 350g protein. Put on quite a bit of LBM and dropped alot of fat

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03 Nov 2010 03:01 #54741 by vega5
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AJAY wrote: PCT was just Temoxifin - wanted to use Nolvadex but supplier had no stock.

Same thing bud. Seeing that the guys are giving you cycle advice I'll maybe point to a practical aspect, don't talk about ml on the forum, when speaking about AAS talk about mg, it makes it so much easier to read and help you when its done this way.

Cool, enjoy the cycle bud

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