Proviron dosing

Hi gents

Was wondering if any of you have any experience whethere there's any noticeable difference in effect between 50mg and 75mg proviron per day? (besides on the wallet )

will be following the below protocol

wk 1-5
tbol 40mg/ed
equi 350mg/wk
ST 640mg/wk

wk 6-15
equi 525mg/wk
ST 640mg-wk

Will be under the watchfull eye of dj

Thanks!

Marshy

ID say stick at 50mg as i dont think 75mg is gonna make a huge diff.
Maybe just a bigger increase in labido. Rather go for 50mg per day and run it for the last 6weeks of ur cycle.

The money u pay for proviron and the effect it gives u in my eyes is not worth it unless money is not an option for u.

SNOK1986 wrote:

The money u pay for proviron and the effect it gives u in my eyes is not worth it unless money is not an option for u.

I second that

BB_guy wrote:

SNOK1986 wrote:

The money u pay for proviron and the effect it gives u in my eyes is not worth it unless money is not an option for u.

I second that

I disagree... proviron is very, very important in any cycle containing test for the reasons below:

This is a very unique compound. It has a very high affinity to bind to the androgen steroid receptors, but used on its own doesn't lead to large muscle gains. Where it does play a role, is that it binds to the Sex- Hormone Binbing Globuline (S-HBG). This is the stuff that carries your testosterone. S-HBG binds testosterone very strongly and about 95-99% of your testosterone is connected to it. Only the free fraction of circulating testosterone is actually what is making you grow. When you use Proviron, it binds to S-HBG as much as 60-65% and that frees up more active circulating testosterone to make you grow. Proviron also binds very strongly to the aromatase enzymes, preventing them from converting your other steroid compounds to estrogen.

Thus, it acts very similar as to a "oral" version of Masteron. It thus increases the potency of your other steroid compounds on cycle, as well as preventing the estrogen build up from them.
The normal half life is about 12 hours - so you will have to split the daily dosage in two.
Normal dosages can range from 25mg up to 100mg per day. Some athletes I have come across, as well as the Pro's, use it in the 150-200mg per day dosage range. It is a very safe drug and even at these dosages, has very little detrimental effect.

Over years of working with athletes, I have found that beyond the 100mg per day dosage, you start going into the zone of diminished returns. I personally have found the most effective dose to be between 50-100mg per day.

My suggestion:
Start with Proviron from week one of your pre-contest cycle, but use a low 25mg dose per day, breaking the tablet in half twice daily. From about 8 weeks out from comp day, step up to 50mg per day and from 6 weeks out until comp day,aim for 75-100mg per day.

I use Proviron in my cycles because of this quote from admins post above "Proviron, it binds to S-HBG as much as 60-65% and that frees up more active circulating testosterone to make you grow".
I think most people think it is just a weak anti aromatase, so possibly thats why it is not very popular.

admin wrote:

BB_guy wrote:

SNOK1986 wrote:

The money u pay for proviron and the effect it gives u in my eyes is not worth it unless money is not an option for u.

I second that

I disagree... proviron is very, very important in any cycle containing test for the reasons below:

This is a very unique compound. It has a very high affinity to bind to the androgen steroid receptors, but used on its own doesn't lead to large muscle gains. Where it does play a role, is that it binds to the Sex- Hormone Binbing Globuline (S-HBG). This is the stuff that carries your testosterone. S-HBG binds testosterone very strongly and about 95-99% of your testosterone is connected to it. Only the free fraction of circulating testosterone is actually what is making you grow. When you use Proviron, it binds to S-HBG as much as 60-65% and that frees up more active circulating testosterone to make you grow. Proviron also binds very strongly to the aromatase enzymes, preventing them from converting your other steroid compounds to estrogen.

Thus, it acts very similar as to a "oral" version of Masteron. It thus increases the potency of your other steroid compounds on cycle, as well as preventing the estrogen build up from them.
The normal half life is about 12 hours - so you will have to split the daily dosage in two.
Normal dosages can range from 25mg up to 100mg per day. Some athletes I have come across, as well as the Pro's, use it in the 150-200mg per day dosage range. It is a very safe drug and even at these dosages, has very little detrimental effect.

Over years of working with athletes, I have found that beyond the 100mg per day dosage, you start going into the zone of diminished returns. I personally have found the most effective dose to be between 50-100mg per day.

My suggestion:
Start with Proviron from week one of your pre-contest cycle, but use a low 25mg dose per day, breaking the tablet in half twice daily. From about 8 weeks out from comp day, step up to 50mg per day and from 6 weeks out until comp day,aim for 75-100mg per day.

Cant argue with the science behind it, just find from personal use(very limited) I don't see/feel much, if any difference using it...

I'm 99% sure I've read somewhere that oral Winny also has a binding effect on SHBG ??? If so I would think Winny to be the better choice as a person could still add a small amount of muscle using Winny in the last few weeks ...Thoughts ?

BB_guy wrote:

admin wrote:

BB_guy wrote:

SNOK1986 wrote:

The money u pay for proviron and the effect it gives u in my eyes is not worth it unless money is not an option for u.

I second that

I disagree... proviron is very, very important in any cycle containing test for the reasons below:

This is a very unique compound. It has a very high affinity to bind to the androgen steroid receptors, but used on its own doesn't lead to large muscle gains. Where it does play a role, is that it binds to the Sex- Hormone Binbing Globuline (S-HBG). This is the stuff that carries your testosterone. S-HBG binds testosterone very strongly and about 95-99% of your testosterone is connected to it. Only the free fraction of circulating testosterone is actually what is making you grow. When you use Proviron, it binds to S-HBG as much as 60-65% and that frees up more active circulating testosterone to make you grow. Proviron also binds very strongly to the aromatase enzymes, preventing them from converting your other steroid compounds to estrogen.

Thus, it acts very similar as to a "oral" version of Masteron. It thus increases the potency of your other steroid compounds on cycle, as well as preventing the estrogen build up from them.
The normal half life is about 12 hours - so you will have to split the daily dosage in two.
Normal dosages can range from 25mg up to 100mg per day. Some athletes I have come across, as well as the Pro's, use it in the 150-200mg per day dosage range. It is a very safe drug and even at these dosages, has very little detrimental effect.

Over years of working with athletes, I have found that beyond the 100mg per day dosage, you start going into the zone of diminished returns. I personally have found the most effective dose to be between 50-100mg per day.

My suggestion:
Start with Proviron from week one of your pre-contest cycle, but use a low 25mg dose per day, breaking the tablet in half twice daily. From about 8 weeks out from comp day, step up to 50mg per day and from 6 weeks out until comp day,aim for 75-100mg per day.

Cant argue with the science behind it, just find from personal use(very limited) I don't see/feel much, if any difference using it...

I'm 99% sure I've read somewhere that oral Winny also has a binding effect on SHBG ??? If so I would think Winny to be the better choice as a person could still add a small amount of muscle using Winny in the last few weeks ...Thoughts ?

You are correct, only reason I'm going on about Proviron is because I can actually use it, since winstrol hammers my liver way too much on prolonged use.

Read this: Winstrol is one of those compounds which has a synergistic effect when the oral and injectable version are combined on the same cycle. It lowers the S-HBG dramatically - remember Proviron binds to S-HBG. Using both these compounds the same time, will dramatically free up a huge amount of testosterone to actively cycle your bloodstream.

In other words: Proviron binds to S-HBG while Winstrol lowers S-HBG. Only downside is that now you are already taking Proviron, Oral Winstrol, Injectable Winstrol and you haven't even started with your main cycle compounds like Testosterone ect. At the end of the day you are talking about some seriously complicated and expensive cycle. However if you can afford it and find a way to help your liver, I see no reason not to experiment with this.

Thanks a mil guys!

So run proviron throughout at say 50mg/ed, and for the last 5 weeks, up the proviron to 75mg/ed, and include winstrol at 30mg/ed? Thoughts on this?

Marshy wrote:

Thanks a mil guys!

So run proviron throughout at say 50mg/ed, and for the last 5 weeks, up the proviron to 75mg/ed, and include winstrol at 30mg/ed? Thoughts on this?

Yep, that's what I would do. Are you preparing for a competition?

Oh, I see you don't have test in your cycle, so I assume you want the proviron more for hardness?

Agree Admin, Winny is pretty liver toxic and that must definitely be kept in mind when using it

Proviron binds to S-HBG while Winstrol lowers S-HBG

Thanx for this, never knew they acted differently

@Marshy , I can only comment on the Winny from what I have read, and they say as little as 0.2mg/Kg will lower SHBG by 50%... But if you are wanting to add some more muscle with the Winny I say go for 50mg upwards

Admin i respect ur knowledge and wisdom on this site but proviron for me is waste of money had far better results with masteron. Took proviron 50mg per day for 2 weeks than bumped it up to 100mg for 4weeks didnt get the effect i was hoping from it rather i got a labido that porn stars dont even have. lol

But thats just me the scientific aspect of it def looks good and from that i could say try it out and see what it does for u.

Ill stick to masteron.

Hi admin,

I'll be running supertest at 640mg/wk, from wk 1-15.
not prepping for a comp. just a an increase in lean mass, while coming in a bit leaner and a lot harder. been offered a contract with a modeling agency, and i know a lot of guys will laugh at it, but i thought if im gona do it, im gona do it right. looking for a "men's health, cover model look" - not too big, more lean and athletic (which i know comes down largely to diet and training)

Thanks again for your help and input everyone. I really appreciate it!

Hi guys been doing some reseach on proviron and I am going to go get some to take with my cycle I am currently on. What I was wondering is 25mg ED be enough as bucks are a bit low. I have been on my cycle for 2 weeks now so dont know if that will affect me taken proviron only now. my cycle is as follows as mentioned in a previous post.

test cyp and ethanate 1000mg per week
tren ace and tren ethanate 300mg per week
winstrol tabs 30mg ED for last 4 weeks of 12 week cycle

What do you guys think if I had to throw in some Deca at 100mg per week the one from organon it comes in 1 ml vial at 100mg strenth was looking at it to help lube the joints as winny can dry this out also to help with recovery Thanks

juiced169 wrote:

Hi guys been doing some reseach on proviron and I am going to go get some to take with my cycle I am currently on. What I was wondering is 25mg ED be enough as bucks are a bit low. I have been on my cycle for 2 weeks now so dont know if that will affect me taken proviron only now. my cycle is as follows as mentioned in a previous post.

test cyp and ethanate 1000mg per week
tren ace and tren ethanate 300mg per week
winstrol tabs 30mg ED for last 4 weeks of 12 week cycle

What do you guys think if I had to throw in some Deca at 100mg per week the one from organon it comes in 1 ml vial at 100mg strenth was looking at it to help lube the joints as winny can dry this out also to help with recovery Thanks

I wouldn't mind ketting an answer on this one myself. Have some karma!

Marshy wrote:

Hi admin,

I'll be running supertest at 640mg/wk, from wk 1-15.
not prepping for a comp. just a an increase in lean mass, while coming in a bit leaner and a lot harder. been offered a contract with a modeling agency, and i know a lot of guys will laugh at it, but i thought if im gona do it, im gona do it right. looking for a "men's health, cover model look" - not too big, more lean and athletic (which i know comes down largely to diet and training)

Thanks again for your help and input everyone. I really appreciate it!

Personally I would hold the Proviron for the back end of the cycle when Cortizol is on the rise and you can hit back with that.
Kick start with an oral, maybe winny for the lean look or even T-Bol.

juiced169 wrote:

Hi guys been doing some reseach on proviron and I am going to go get some to take with my cycle I am currently on. What I was wondering is 25mg ED be enough as bucks are a bit low. I have been on my cycle for 2 weeks now so dont know if that will affect me taken proviron only now. my cycle is as follows as mentioned in a previous post.

test cyp and ethanate 1000mg per week
tren ace and tren ethanate 300mg per week
winstrol tabs 30mg ED for last 4 weeks of 12 week cycle

What do you guys think if I had to throw in some Deca at 100mg per week the one from organon it comes in 1 ml vial at 100mg strenth was looking at it to help lube the joints as winny can dry this out also to help with recovery Thanks

Let's keep this topic about Proviron only and not about deca also.

BTW: juiced169 and vega5 the question about the proviron ED is already answered above.

ok, so cycle would possibly look like this-

week 1-5

supertest 640mg/wk
equi 350mg/wk
tbol 40mg/ed
proviron 25mg/ed

week 6-10

supertest 640mg-wk
equi 525mg/wk
proviron 50mg/ed

week 11-15

supertest 640mg/wk
equi 525mg/wk
proviron 75mg/ed

Hey guys, quick question.

I just want to check if the results I'm seeing from Proviron is typical.

I've been using 40mg per day from Saturday and I've gained 2.5kg from then. My thinking is because there's now more test available but I'm not sure.

Your thinking is correct. The gains are not from Proviron, but from its ability to free more testosterone, so you gain from the testosterone.

Wow, 2,5kg since Sat? That is impressive.
How long you been on cycle and what you cycling?
It may also be another ester kicking in as well

Probably about 8 weeks in, currently on 960mg Super Test and 560mg Equi a week.

And still 15 weeks to go.

Probably about 8 weeks in, currently on 960mg Super Test and 560mg Equi a week.

And still 15 weeks to go.

vega5 wrote:

Probably about 8 weeks in, currently on 960mg Super Test and 560mg Equi a week.

And still 15 weeks to go.

Sound just about right to me. Also had a jump round about then. Not as big though.

hey guys, just again on that proviron dose, im planning a cycle next month, 750mg test cyp and 350mg deca, kick started with some dbol. Would proviron at 25mg a day help much with keeping the water and estro sides lower, and boosting the free test levels? And should i run it throughout or start it a few weeks in? are the effects when run synergistically with a test cycle worth the cost?