Eq cycle questions

Wouldn't go over 0.3mg/day with the Letro Fakey_AK

milktuds wrote:

Wouldn't go over 0.3mg/day with the Letro Fakey_AK

Thats why its eod or is .50mg to much for a one day dose on eod protocol. Would i be better of with .25mg ed/eod. Just dont wanna loose my sex drive like last time.

The sex drive thing bothers me as well. Wont running proviron at 40mg/day during the 8 weeks be sufficient?

Oh sorry didn't see EOD. Then it's fine. I still don't like Letro. Too strong. Should be left for pre comp and when Gyno hits. If you can then fork out for some A-Dex.

ABC01 wrote:

The sex drive thing bothers me as well. Wont running proviron at 40mg/day during the 8 weeks be sufficient?

If you are gyno prone then rather run an AI like A-Dex. If not then just keep it on hand in case the shit hits the fan. I only ran Letro at high doses (2.5mg/day), I only started experiencing all the side effects after about 4 weeks I think. That's when it starting working properly.

So i assume running proviron throughout a cycle for the AI properties(and aditional test enhancing effect)is a waste? Cant get arimidex from my current source. Letro is the other option but scared of the floppy dick thing. Would 0.25mg letro every 3rd day be sufficient for gyno sides and water retention?

Oh and Fakey: That is a solid cycle with rock hard PCT. You will be flying! I opted out of my intended 15 week cycle. Will rather do it mid 2011 and ad some goodies to it and maybe up it to 20 weeks. Contemplating solid 8 weeker starting mid October. Had that one of yours in mind but thinking that just a 8 weeker prop with winnie last 4 weeks and letro throughout (since proviron looks like no no)would be a solid bang for buck dry hard gain cycle too. Will rather save up for nice long cycle mid next year.

Keep us posted on that 8 week monster. Good luck bro!

Try it and see how it works for you. I've only used Proviron the last few weeks to help with gains.

The proviron thing wont help much with libido with letro doses past .75mg ed (atleast it didn't for me). Milktuds i'll get some armidex for this one then.

Abc01 bump the winny up to 6 weeks and it shoulb make u rock hard. U can still add the proviron if u want. Letro at .25mg eod will be do u just fine.

I have a question for the pro's: Masteron and proviron, it works more or less the same right? so would be using them together be a waste? Not about this, thats why im asking.

On a side note Happy Fathers Day to all the Dads!
:dance :la-ola :dance

cant wait for this one ,not much to read on drostanolone propionate

If i decide on the proviron it would be something like Netro suggested few posts ago:

Netro wrote:

Last 6 weeks run Proviron, 40mg p/day and then Oral Winny at 20mg p/day. Stop Oral Winny end of your cycle and run the Proviron until start of PCT upping the dose to 60mg p/day.[/quote]

Question: Is the low winni dose because of the stress on the liver with proviron or is that dose sufficient when running proviron at 40mg/day. Also, wont there be to much dht in the system. Dont want to walk out bald after 8 weeks :side:

Happy fathers day to those who followd their PCT's :laugh:

That suggestion from netro does look interesting, will maybe try it with my eq cycle.

i would also like to know about the low dose winny. Proviron isn't so harsh as its only methylated.

As for the baldness, I think it also depends how prone to male pattern baldness u r.

Low winny dose is just there because of the effect on free testosterone and to utilize it better as cortisol levels will be high and that will hit back at it.
You can run a higher dose, but the application for me is not the full effect Winny has, just the management of cortisol during the back end of a cycle.

Netro wrote:

Low winny dose is just there because of the effect on free testosterone and to utilize it better as cortisol levels will be high and that will hit back at it.
You can run a higher dose, but the application for me is not the full effect Winny has, just the management of cortisol during the back end of a cycle.

Ok i get it! So running that in a 8 week test prop cycle wont be that beneficial
Was thinking:
Test prop 100mg eod week 1-8
Proviron 40mg ed week 3-9
Winni 40mg ed week 4-8
The proviron would have the AI benefit and then i can leave the letro out

Would it be better then doing
Test prop week 1-8
Masteron 75mg eod week 1-6
Winni 40mg ed week 7-start pct
and then running letro at .2mg eod

Bump on my masteron and proviron question

ABC01 wrote:

Netro wrote:

Low winny dose is just there because of the effect on free testosterone and to utilize it better as cortisol levels will be high and that will hit back at it.
You can run a higher dose, but the application for me is not the full effect Winny has, just the management of cortisol during the back end of a cycle.

Ok i get it! So running that in a 8 week test prop cycle wont be that beneficial
Was thinking:
Test prop 100mg eod week 1-8
Proviron 40mg ed week 3-9
Winni 40mg ed week 4-8
The proviron would have the AI benefit and then i can leave the letro out

Would it be better then doing
Test prop week 1-8
Masteron 75mg eod week 1-6
Winni 40mg ed week 7-start pct
and then running letro at .2mg eod

Both look fine, but would only use the Letro as needed. The prop is not that high a dose, so just use when you get gyno symptoms.

You should be as hard as a diamond with that 2nd cycle. Might need to add some Finpecia in there or keep on hand at least.

Netro what do you think of running an equi cycle longer than 16 weeks - say up to 20 weeks. I am currently doing sust 250 1ml twice a week , equi 350 1ml twice a week ,proviron 20 ed , 4hgh ed 5 days on 2 days off. I am now in week 13 of my cycle and have zero sides and making good gains so I was wondering if it would be ok to run this cycle longer say to 20 weeks or stack another drug and go to 16 weeks or just finish off at 16 weeks and then PCT. Thanks.

On Equi it should be fine.
Your proviron in there is keeping things under control nicely and a good addition. Would not push the envelope past 20 weeks though.

Monitor it until the 16 week mark and make a decision then.

I know Jackrabbit is a fan of these marathon cycles, maybe ask him to give his feeling around this as he has done a few.

Ok thanks Netro.

Thats exactly what i'm gonna do. Run it until i get bored! :laugh:

So when the results slow down too much(Hopefully around 20-24 weeks) i'll call it a day and then TRT fo a while before doing another NPP/Prop/Masteron cycle.

The problem is that i only really start seeing gains after 3 months/12 weeks - and 12 weeks is looooong to wait everytime just to quit while i'm still going up!

Remember - i'm 42 have kids(And a grand kid) and have had a vascectomy a loooong time ago so i dont really worry about that.
I have regular bloodwork done to keep tabs on the cholesterol, liver, kidneys, thyroid. I also have the occasional sonar to check the aorta and other major organs.

Jackrabbit I am same age as you no need for any more kids as well. Also only started to see results late in the cycle and thats why I was thinking of extending it. Thanks for your input bro.

Maybe you guys should exchange mail details and you can compare notes considering you batting off the same wicket?

Netro wrote:

Maybe you guys should exchange mail details and you can compare notes considering you batting off the same wicket?

We need an Old Ballie section here!

I also dont see any reason not to run it a bit longer ... a cycle of injectables shouldn't be a problem, but as has been said , keep an eye on your liver values and er on the side of caution ...

IMO 250mg's x 2 a week of Sust is a touch on the low side , i'd personally opt for a longer test Ester if your keeping dosages low ... the faster acting test esters in sust really dont do much at low dosages. Cycles where i've run sust at 750mg's and up you can really feel the faster test esters in the sust , but that's using at least EOD shots ... and Sust burns like a mofo , especially the old karachi sust ...

WOT


mrwhite wrote:

Netro what do you think of running an equi cycle longer than 16 weeks - say up to 20 weeks. I am currently doing sust 250 1ml twice a week , equi 350 1ml twice a week ,proviron 20 ed , 4hgh ed 5 days on 2 days off. I am now in week 13 of my cycle and have zero sides and making good gains so I was wondering if it would be ok to run this cycle longer say to 20 weeks or stack another drug and go to 16 weeks or just finish off at 16 weeks and then PCT. Thanks.

hey guys

Just read on another thread about eq with acetate ester? Is this for real. And if so does anybody know the lab name & strength.

Net n bietjie neskurig

Way back when an Equi came out with a short ester, it did not work and soon vanished.
That cycle is from China and who knows what is available there.

Equi has a long ester for a reason.
I actually asked about that and have had no response.

Nothing available here and if you google Equi Ace I am sure you will get some bunk steroid shop.

Actually just googled it and guess what, oral boldenone. Go to the shops and they have the link pointing to Anapolon, Anavar, T-Bol .....

Looks nice on paper and you can get it ridden in on your favorite unicorn .... :laugh: