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My 4th cycle is coming up in July and will have some Test @ 600mg p/w and Equipoise @ 700mg p/w,
this will be a 14-16 weeker cycle.
It would be wise to use Letro and some kind of a-dex with my cycle,
What dosages of letro do you guys suggest and what a-dex would you suggest as well to use with my cycle?
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Hey Guys....
My 4th cycle is coming up in July and will have some Test @ 600mg p/w and Equipoise @ 700mg p/w,
this will be a 14-16 weeker cycle.
It would be wise to use Letro and some kind of a-dex with my cycle,
What dosages of letro do you guys suggest and what a-dex would you suggest as well to use with my cycle?
Hey jacques
I am getting on the same cycle with dbol in the first 4 weeks, i have been advised to get the liquid letro just for incase the bad sides come up and it will be taken, 0.25mg EOD going to use it for the first 4 weeks and then just keep it in hand.
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I'm kickstarting with Test Prop 1ml EOD for the first two weeks as well...
So would you say that I need to use .25mg of letro for the first 2weeks?
and what Adex would you suggest?
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Thanks Rooz,
I'm kickstarting with Test Prop 1ml EOD for the first two weeks as well...
So would you say that I need to use .25mg of letro for the first 2weeks?
and what Adex would you suggest?
Well i would say if you gona run adex no need for the letro, letro supresses much more than the adex.
I just got the letro becuase i dont like chopping up the pills. Brand on the adex i am not that clued up on what works better, maybe ask DJ or Vega5 they will certainly know what would be better.
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Rather leave the letro and take it when sides present or take it from the start and end when you start you PCT.
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I don't think it's wise to start Letro and just stop it again as you'll have major estrogen rebound.
Rather leave the letro and take it when sides present or take it from the start and end when you start you PCT.
Vega5 if you would take the letro will you rather take it 0.25mg EOD throughout rather to prevent than fix
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I don't think it's wise to start Letro and just stop it again as you'll have major estrogen rebound.
Rather leave the letro and take it when sides present or take it from the start and end when you start you PCT.
I'm sticking to the Doctari's PCT....
I've always had Tomaxofien on hand on previous cycle's, for the Gyno and stuff.
but would you rather use Letro or Kessar?
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1: i think you are missing something, a-dex is not a sub category with different products and options, it itself is an AI like letro (a weaker, more expensive, less harsh version) and therefore you would not use the 2 together as they are for the same purpose.
2: on cycle it is better to prevent in the way roozer suggested, .25mg e2d or .25 ed the latter being the better. As far as compounds go- letro or adex will do the trick and i have explained the differences above. Would go for adex .25 ed if you have the cash as it is less harsh almost as effective and easier to come off.
3: you should never use tamoxi to prevent or reverse gyno on cycle because a- it doesnt work effectively and b- it is too harsh on the system, notably its liver toxidity.
4: learn how to use and come of the stuff properly whatevr you choose because as vega said all the good you are doing trying to prevent can be messed up big time by estrogen rebound.
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Jacquespa:
1: i think you are missing something, a-dex is not a sub category with different products and options, it itself is an AI like letro (a weaker, more expensive, less harsh version) and therefore you would not use the 2 together as they are for the same purpose.
2: on cycle it is better to prevent in the way roozer suggested, .25mg e2d or .25 ed the latter being the better. As far as compounds go- letro or adex will do the trick and i have explained the differences above. Would go for adex .25 ed if you have the cash as it is less harsh almost as effective and easier to come off.
3: you should never use tamoxi to prevent or reverse gyno on cycle because a- it doesnt work effectively and b- it is too harsh on the system, notably its liver toxidity.
4: learn how to use and come of the stuff properly whatevr you choose because as vega said all the good you are doing trying to prevent can be messed up big time by estrogen rebound.
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Peace
Thanks Moose,
I always had a misunderstanding about the two... now I know!
As Vega suggested, using .25 ED would prevent it and as you said, If I have the cash. But the thing is my budget is a little low and I have an extra box of Kessar available.
Letro would be the lesser of two evils but I'll stick with the kessar for now. Like I said, I have an extra box.
And as you say its very harsh on the system, especially the liver.
Would a liver supplement aid if signs of gyno appears and one has to take Kessar?
and if taking a liver supp, is there a change that you would hinder the gains or is that just a myth?
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I know that you are enquiring about Letro ect., but why in your cycle is your weekly dose of Equi higher than your Test? Don't you think the Test should be the highest dose??
If everybody does it, is it still cheating?
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Jacques' father,
I know that you are enquiring about Letro ect., but why in your cycle is your weekly dose of Equi higher than your Test? Don't you think the Test should be the highest dose??
my apologies,
with my previous enquiry about my cycle I was advised to lower the equi dose to 500mg p/w , which will meen that I can run it for 2weeks longer than previously decided.
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On the topic of the kessar, yes it will hinder your gains due to bad health because of the amount you must take for it to be effective save up for adex bru it will be worth your while.
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Ok firstly why the fuck has my karma dropped 9! In the last 9 hours??
On the topic of the kessar, yes it will hinder your gains due to bad health because of the amount you must take for it to be effective save up for adex bru it will be worth your while.
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thanks Moose
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Ok firstly why the fuck has my karma dropped 9! In the last 9 hours??
On the topic of the kessar, yes it will hinder your gains due to bad health because of the amount you must take for it to be effective save up for adex bru it will be worth your while.
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Join the club Moose. My karma also dropped 9 in one day. The Mods can't even explain it and I don't even care anymore.
(It's just that when you're over 1000 posts and your karma sits on 3 you look like an asshole) No wewbie will take advice from an asshole.... :laugh:
If everybody does it, is it still cheating?
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Mr Moose wrote:
Ok firstly why the fuck has my karma dropped 9! In the last 9 hours??
On the topic of the kessar, yes it will hinder your gains due to bad health because of the amount you must take for it to be effective save up for adex bru it will be worth your while.
Peace
Join the club Moose. My karma also dropped 9 in one day. The Mods can't even explain it and I don't even care anymore.
(It's just that when you're over 1000 posts and your karma sits on 3 you look like an asshole) No wewbie will take advice from an asshole.... :laugh:
mr moose your karma dropped again thats kak okay i will bump you guys hahaha dont worry it will take a while hahaha but will help you out i mean if it was me i would piss on my laptop hahaha
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Yea I know what ur saying its the same reason iam having a moan!! Dick! Well everyone on the forum knows us (come guys feel generous) let's repair it- I'll give you another, gave u one when they nailed u first time.
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Fuck this ha ha...
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Aaaah- so annoying bru, sucks!!
Fuck this ha ha...
Relax dont let the tren take you over haha :woohoo:
will bump you up to 15 again in no time. I would just like to know how the hell can something like this happen.
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Yea me 2 surely ther must b a way of finding out?!
I wish I was on tren had 2 delay the cycle by a month or so picked up a nasty injury so just gonna start on the prop ed at low doses till next month.
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... My karma also dropped 9 in one day. The Mods can't even explain it and I don't even care anymore.
(It's just that when you're over 1000 posts and your karma sits on 3 you look like an asshole) No wewbie will take advice from an asshole.... :laugh:
Calling me an asshole? :laugh:
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