LCLT...L-Carnitine L-Tartrate???

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02 Feb 2010 22:42 #35021 by J34N
LCLT...L-Carnitine L-Tartrate??? was created by J34N
Has anyone got info on this as a stand-alone supplementation form to enhance androgenic receptor site responce or increase in receptor docking sites??

Dosing?
Effectiveness?
Does it work with pro-hormones or SARMS aswell?
Can you use it throughout the year to increase androgen docking sites and is this increase permanent?
Does it only work in this way if you use it with anabolics?

I've read about it in the ME and it sounds really amazing and they say thats it's way different to normal L-Carnitine so dont worry if you had bad experiences with that! Really hope I can get advice on this because im not someone to fall for marketing hype! :dry:

Oh and this is a over the counter supplement and pretty cheap aswell... :laugh: so if it works, why not??

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03 Feb 2010 22:59 #35111 by J34N
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Anyone? Anything? :huh:

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04 Feb 2010 11:05 #35137 by Sting
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What I do know about l-canitine l-tartrate being different from other types of carnitine is just the l-tartrate. Carnitine is linked to different organic groups which just affects how well your body will utilise the carnitine and absorb it, but tartrate is the preferred type. I've only ever known carnitine to enhance fat break down and improve the cardiovascular system. With that said, there is not much evidence for its lipolysis activity, but I do find it helps with cramping during exercise, especially when I swim.

Anyways here is an abstract I found to a paper that did a study with L-carnitine l-tartrate in men, you can read the entire paper if u wish, I think it will be a good read:

"The effects of L-carnitine L-tartrate supplementation on hormonal responses to resistance exercise and recovery.
Kraemer WJ, Volek JS, French DN, Rubin MR, Sharman MJ, Gómez AL, Ratamess NA, Newton RU, Jemiolo B, Craig BW, Häkkinen K.

Human Performance Laboratory, Department of Kinesiology, University of Connecticut, Storrs, CT 06269, USA. EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED

The purpose of this investigation was to examine the influence of L-carnitine L-tartrate (LCLT) supplementation using a balanced, cross-over, placebo-controlled research design on the anabolic hormone response (i.e., testosterone [T], insulin-like growth factor-I, insulin-like growth factor-binding protein-3 [IGFBP-3], and immunofunctional and immunoreactive growth hormone [GHif and GHir]) to acute resistance exercise. Ten healthy, recreationally weight-trained men (mean +/- SD age 23.7 +/- 2.3 years, weight 78.7 +/- 8.5 kg, and height 179.2 +/- 4.6 cm) volunteered and were matched, and after 3 weeks of supplementation (2 g LCLT per day), fasting morning blood samples were obtained on six consecutive days (D1-D6). Subjects performed a squat protocol (5 sets of 15-20 repetitions) on D2. During the squat protocol, blood samples were obtained before exercise and 0, 15, 30, 120, and 180 minutes postexercise. After a 1-week washout period, subjects consumed the other supplement for a 3-week period, and the same experimental protocol was repeated using the exact same procedures. Expected exercise-induced increases in all of the hormones were observed for GHir, GHif, IGFBP-3, and T. Over the recovery period, LCLT reduced the amount of exercise-induced muscle tissue damage, which was assessed via magnetic resonance imaging scans of the thigh. LCLT supplementation significantly (p < 0.05) increased IGFBP-3 concentrations prior to and at 30, 120, and 180 minutes after acute exercise. No other direct effects of LCLT supplementation were observed on the absolute concentrations of the hormones examined, but with more undamaged tissue, a greater number of intact receptors would be available for hormonal interactions. These data support the use of LCLT as a recovery supplement for hypoxic exercise and lend further insights into the hormonal mechanisms that may help to mediate quicker recovery."

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04 Feb 2010 11:13 #35139 by J34N
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Thanx alot Beesting, helps alot :laugh: Finally got a reply! And thanx for the big effort! ...sprinkle sprinkle... ;)

ps-Would like some more input on this from anyone!

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